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[anukhet]

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Back to the Gravity v. Dantomkia fight.........
Dont you think that WJs excellent driving was more of a factor in the outcome by getting into the position straight from the word go to flip Dantomkia OOTA rather than the actual flip itself?
I certainly wasnt bored by that!

[babeth]

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It was great driving: both WJ trying to get his flipper in and Mike to try to get away and get his own flipper in. Even if it lasted only 6 seconds the replays were very interesting to watch.
What IS boring ? Knowing that an invincible crusher will crunch into the other robot eventually and waiting until the other dies ? Two robots performing the infamous Robo-walz for minutes on a row ? One robot whacking at another with a hammer or ax without denting it or even causing sparks to fly ? Watching a spinner launch both itself and the opponent into orbit and then see which one did not survive the impact ? Phah, there are so many boring things in Robot Wars that Im amazed we dont find cobwebs on our TV set after an episode.
Grow up people, even the most fascinating book, sport or film still has its dull moments. Learn to live with that. And discover the beauty of Zen... there is a certain elegance and serenity to be found in those boring parts in contrast to the really exiting things... which would not be exiting at all if we had not just experienced boredom anyway...

[Guest]

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Surely whats boring is just a matter of opinion anyway, so theres no point saying what is and isnt?

[bobblebot2]

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*nods his head*

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Wow someone agrees with me

[gravity]

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I didnt think the Gravity-lighting fight was boring. Nor did I think Gravity-Tornado was boring. Or the 4-way melee Gravity-Hodaf the bad-hydra-thor for that matter...

Fights dont get boring cause of the robots, fights get boring cause of the drivers.
Anyone remember the hypnodisc dominator2 fight ? BORING ! Which couldve been a very interesting fight !

Only reason I ootaed dantomkia at the first chance I had was because I knew it would be very hard to get a second chance. At that point the urge to survive and get to the next round was bigger then to make an interesting fight.
Mike and me couldve gone on for 5 minutes flipping eachother, but luck decided otherwise.
Find us on a live event and see how much fun it is watching a flipper battle !!!

[dinowarrior]

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Yeah, but the thing is with the Dominator Hypno-disc fight was this.

OK, so Hypno-disc didnt want any damage done to them, so they stayed out of it. But ALSO, theyd noticed that Dominator had lost drive to one wheel and were waiting for them to be counted out. But they were NOT counted out. The fight just continued. And, as a result...zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Now, the thing is, why was Dominator not counted out? (and why was it also not counted out in its fight against 13 Black?). On both occasions, it was clearly only moving on one wheel, and on one of those occasions (the first one), the team confirmed it. And every other robot before that time (Stinger in RW4 annihilator), during that time (Chaos 2 in Challenge Belt) and after that time (Bulldog Breed in S6 against Hypno-disc) were counted out if a wheel on one side broke down. So, why wernt Dominator counted out?

Answer THAT why dont you?

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the ref was probably immobolised or its counter didnt work.

[dinowarrior]

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So why didnt the judges stop it, instead of calling it boring?

[Guest]

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they thought that hypnodisk would continue smashing dominator up.....

[fluppet]

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Against Hypno, it actually looked as though Dominators frame was bent, and they were grounding on the floor. Had they actually lost drive, or were they just stuck? Not that theres much difference (the fight shouldve been stopped either way, and I learnt an important lesson about small ground clearance) but Im curious, and if I knew the answer Ive forgotten it.

They were probably hoping someone would feel obliged to make it interesting - I actually thought Dominator stood a chance against Hypno (as proven in a later fight). The same was true of Razers final against Bigger Brother - it dragged on because it was a final, and they didnt want to count a robot out (or perhaps they didnt want to let Razer loose on the house robots again). Interesting to mention the two together, since I always felt that Dominator was a robot that Razer pretty much couldnt beat (its the wrong shape).

Sorry, was someone expecting consistent behaviour from the Robot Wars judges/director? :-)

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I always wanted to see Razer V Dominator, Andrew, as the combination of the latter day Dominators rock hard armour and difficult shape would mean it would be tricky for Razer. However, i would say Razer would most definately beat it either by:

a) somehow getting a grip and putting it in the pit (quite possible)

b) winning a judges decision on aggression

or

c) managing to cruch down on the only flat surface - the wheel arches

Besides, i doubt Doms axe would do much damage to Razers armour.

[fluppet]

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In the later version the wheel arches meet the side of the frame at a shallow angle (I think they learnt not to leave sticky-out bits on the wheel arches in the fight against Hypno). I dont think it could be gripped there.

Im not convinced that the axe wouldnt go through Razers armour - although it would have to hit it in the right place (and not just bounce off the srimech wings) but there are nice, flat, not very thick bits there to be had; Dominators biggest failing is that its ability to apply its weaponry was always a bit limited. Youre right that Razer might manage to do a grab-and-pit, especially if they could get behind it, though.

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Also, Razer might be able to crush the axe mech.

[dinowarrior]

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Also, even if Dominator DID make a hole, would anyone notice it? Razer already has 450 in there.