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[spinnerboy]

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Strange way to look at things Chris.

[steve_c]

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quoteStinger vs Chaos 2 was the correct decition because Stinger shouldnt have been there in the first place. End of Story!/quote

So? They shouldve given the fight to Stinger, and let Pussycat trash them in the final, which they wouldve done. Instead we get the worst result in RW history. (ie. the same robot winning it more than once)

[dinowarrior]

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Hey, they shouldnt have given the fight to Stinger in its previous battle with Panic Attack. After that, I didnt CARE what happened, just as long as Stinger was beaten.

[lex]

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Each fight on its own merits I reckon...

[pcbore]

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Besides, we dont know Pussycat would have trashed Stinger. The blade stopped quite early on in the fight with Chaos 2, and a few whacks with that tail might have done the same thing.

[Guest]

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Pussycat V Stinger would have been a very interesting fight and no doubt would go to the judges, but my moneys on pussycat because stinger i feel wouldnt be able to damage them, or break them down.
Chris - you have to look at each fight on its own merits, just because you feel that stinger should not have beaten panic attack (incidentally i feel the same way) it doesnt mean therefore stinger should not have beaten chaos 2, or else its very unfair.
P.S. I thought stinger V Chaos 2 was the right decision.

[steven_mcg]

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Ahem. Pussycat and Stinger already HAVE met. It was in Round 1 of Extreme 1s All-Stars tournament the two collided. The fight indeed went to the judges and Pussycat triumphed

[Guest]

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Thankyou for pointing that out, i had forgot!

[pcbore]

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Yes but in the extreme fight, Pussycat hadnt taken a couple of shots from Hypnodisc prior to the fight. It was also a ~80 KG Stinger fighting a ~100 KG Pussycat, rather than both being ~80 KGs, so it isnt a fiar comparison of what might have been in series 4

[jamieb]

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Has it been confirmed that robot wars wont continue on 5

[typhoon_driver]

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nope although we should find out soon because the financial year ends today so hopefully well all have an answer within the next few weeks

[mc_blue]

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I thought that Tornado had already used the ACW cage against Razer in the American TNN series? It won there - hence why the Razer team were not as surprised as you may have expected. In addition, they did have a solution to the ACW - the hook on the end of the crusher.

Although there have been some really bad decisions in Robot Wars none of them compare to the farcical state of some Battlebots JDs.

[kaideejee]

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Has anyone got a link to info about, or a pic of the ACW cage? I keep hearing about it but I cant think how a device such as this might work on an invertible robot.

Cheers

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[fluppet]

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MC: Yup, it was used in the TNN series, and (according to the Razer site at the time) the decision was a bit of a farce - although Razer got pushed around, the ACW spinner was disabled. The judges were under the impression that the motor lying on the floor was from Razer - actually it was from the ACW. This is from memory and going off what was on Vinnys site; Ive not seen the fight, so please dont take this report as gospel.

So yes, team Razer had seen the ACW before season 6, and they had the hook ready, but I believe (and again this is from memory of a year or two back) they were told after the TNN fight that the cage wouldnt be allowed again, so I suspect the hook was an afterthought. Team Tornado generously allowed them time to weld it on, and Ive got nothing against the conduct of Andrew & co, but the reports on Vinnys site at the time would certainly imply that they werent aware that they would be needing to counter the ACW again. (That being the fault of the judges, not anyone else - team Tornado brought weapons just in case and things like the anti-spinner weapon *were* disallowed.) My understanding was that they were told the same after Season 6, which may or may not have affected the Extreme 2 performance (although smoking motors probably affected the final - after the concession - result more).

All this is from hazy memory, so apologies to anyone Im misrepresenting.

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[fluppet]

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Kev: there might be a picture somewhere on the Tornado site. Its effectively a rail set halfway up the side of Tornado, supported by some struts coming off the body. The gap between the rail and the body is intended to exceed the reach of Razers beak (although I believe they got some scratches in at the limit). A horizontal spinning bar is mounted at the front of the frame.

When it was first mentioned I presumed it was something the beak couldnt reach over; its not - its just something which (not having any solid structure) is hard for Razer to do any damage to, and keeps the crusher away from the more delicate parts of the robot proper. If Razers beak incorporated a cutting part in the angle of the jaw (think jaws of life, or wire cutters) the cage could probably be dismantled - it would be a poor weapon against Aggrobot, for example. As is, its quite effective - especially since, once it was hooked, Razer tried to push Tornado (which wedged in the arena floor); my feeling is that pulling would have been more effective, but perhaps I should stay out of it until I have a robot with a combat record comparable to Razers. :-)

Because the height of the spinner is less than half the height of Tornado, the robot is still invertable, although I dont believe its been flipped while using it.

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