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Mentorn declared robots such as Storm 2 and Tornado boring and made them apply weapons, in storms case the lifter, in tornados case having little weapons such as lifters or rotating toothpicks on each wedge they applied.
They missed the point though, it is the robot that is the weapon.

[fwsorg]

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Regardless of thier philosophical short-sightedness, they missed the point that by allowing Torando to use its charity event scoop, storm 2 version 1 should have been allowed to eneter.

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But Storm 2 version 1 had no weapons at all. Tornado did have some sort of working part on all of its scoops.

[fwsorg]

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Im not sure thats the case. Unless youre talking about spikes, and storm 2 does have spikes- I have one of its spikes that got broken off at worthing.

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Tornado didnt have any working part on its scoop George until Series 7.

Ed
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[tom_b]

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Have the full results of RW7 & the 3rd World Championship been posted on the Team Storm site, Ed?

[steve_c]

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quoteMentorn declared robots such as Storm 2 and Tornado boring/quote

Thats robots that charge around the arena at rather high speeds and smack into things at rather high speeds and also smack things into walls at rather high speeds. Oh, and causing damage, too.

Shows how much they know about robots...

A boring robot is one that gets under the opposition once, drives to the edge and flips them out within 20 seconds. Or one that gets under the opposition once (usually within 20 seconds), squeezes it a few times without letting it go and then drops it in a corner (if its broke by then) or down the pit (if its not).

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Sorry, should have mentioned i was talking about Series 6 contest. Yes, it was apparent that Tornado had no moving parts on the disc - but for series 6 they were classed as interchangeable weapons. Hmmm. I think it may be another example of inconsistent thinking from Mentorn.

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A boring robot is one that gets under the opposition once, drives to the edge and flips them out within 20 seconds.

Two of the more memorable fights of the last series were Dantomkia doing that to IG-88, and Gravity doing that to Dantomkia! Neither of those fights or bots were boring!

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Its just a matter of opinion Eddy. Some people find flippers very boring. I personally dont.

Oh yes, and on my last post disc should read wedge.

I think further to the no weapons debate, Robot Wars should have kept the Battlebots school of thinking going and allowed all pushers or wedges in anyway, even if they didnt have a working weapon. They can be very interesting and successful and there are many examples of this. Its better to see a well built pusher slam Robots around the arena than see a Robot with a rubbish weapon break down after a few hits.

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quoteTwo of the more memorable fights of the last series were Dantomkia doing that to IG-88, and Gravity doing that to Dantomkia! Neither of those fights or bots were boring!/quote

They were also the shortest, and a total turn-off to watch (how you can say that 10-second fights are not boring is beyond me). And given that those two robots use nothing but that tactic every time, that means that most or all fights involving them last a few seconds, hence theyre boring IMO. (Dantomkia especially, see most of its recent fights) Razer was boring IMO because every fight was a predictable one-sided affair that died as a contest after a few seconds. (mainly because Razer never met a robot that could get off the wedge, and thats why Tornado beat them with the cage - because it enabled them to)

I dont know about you, but I like to see a good evenly-contested battle, not a 10-second spectacle. Im not particularly against flippers, and I know that fights involving them can be great to watch, but unfortunately most of them end up being either brief (due to that ridiculously low arena wall or no/broken srimech on the opponent) or one-sided (due to the low ground clearance culture).

But thats all in the past now, hopefully the Roaming Robots arena is better than the RW one.

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In my oppinion, razer was never boring, and i personally feel that if a robot has such excellent design qualitys that very few, if any, robots could defeat it, then that does not make it boring. Boring is where 5-4-3-2-1-flip! Oh! and its out!

I like it when two fippers really go for it, but in series 7 no flippers really went for it unless they were near the edge of the arena.

An example is bulldog breed vs hard, bulldog didnt fire its flipper till hard were near the wall because other wise some people would of classed it as a wasted flip.

If robot wars is to continue in this way (i.e 5-4-3-2-1-flip! Oh! and its out!) then no wonder people stop watching it!

Just my thought.

Mike
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Its a very good point Mike, and i agree with you on the Razer issue, but yes many flippers can be tediously one sided, but they can also make for great fights and moments, and many of Robot Wars greatest moments have been centered around flippers. Just a thought.

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Mike, if you cant stand flippers, build a robot that can go against them.But take care, Im still developing even more powerfull and effeci«nt ways of launching other machines.

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I never said i cant stand them, infact i prefer them to most types of weapons but i am just saying, that 5-4-3-2-1-flip oota isnt fun anymore like it used to be.

if i couldnt stand them then i just wouldnt watch RW, i apoligise if i made it sound that way, as i didnt mean to.

Tho me building a robot to go against would be an intersting project

Mike