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[paulc]

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The sides and rear stick out by 4cm, and it is part of the shape.

The shape is basically a smaller version of Merlin with 4 wheels and a flat front.

[paulc]

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If you laugh at my stats, Daniel, you need to watch some Blackadder and get a proper laugh and a sense of humour

Ive changed them a bit to remove a decent bit of weight, so hopefully this should be fine:


NITRO-GENE 5.0

€ WEIGHT: 99kg

€ ARMOUR: 3.25mm monocoque Hardox for the body. 6mm Hardox flipper. Inside the body, there€™s 1cm of Vulkanised rubber on the sides and rear, with 3cm on the front to help fight powerful spinners, and theres also 0.5cm of PU foam covering the motors and flipper rams inside for protection.

€ SHAPE: Low invertible box with sides and rear angled in a shape, with the rear angled . The front is completely flat, making it useful at hitting into things and bashing. All the lines have been curved over to make it harder for a spinner to grab onto a panel and rip.

€ MOTORS: 2 x S28-400 MagMotors at 36V = 12HP

€ LOCOMOTION: 4 Vulkanised Wheels, each is 40mm in width, and they€™re also 180mm in diameter.

€ DIMENSIONS: (L) 79CM (H) 17CM (W) 57CM

€ COLOUR: Dark Blue all over with the flipper coloured red with the name imblazed on the flipper (running vertically down the robot) in gold writing with a thick silver outline. All the edges of the robot are coloured gold.

€ WEAPONRY: A full pressure Nitrogen powered flipper at 1000psi, using a single 110mm ram at 1000psi. The flipper is mounted in the middle of the robot, and is 15cm wide and runs 75cm up the body. Using a 5cm long 10mm thick Titanium wedge underneath the flipper, and a heavy flipping arm, the flipper runs completely along the ground. Running on a ratio 2.5:1, the flipper produces 1400kg of force at the tips, allowing me to launch anyone away! This version has enough lift to get a robot of equal size 11-6ft into the air, and throw it 11-6ft along. This version has 2 x 1kg Nitrogen bottles, giving me 20 flips! The flipper has enough power to self-right Nitro-Gene 5.0 in a super stylish 540* somersault!

€ SPEED: 20mph

€ GROUND CLEARANCE: 0CM-1CM. At the front, it is completely 0mm. On the skirted sides/rear, its 1cm. 4mm Titanium skirts held on by Hardox hindges are mounted on the sides/rear and join up at the corners, making it harder to get under.

€ STRENGTH: Pushing power and weaponry.

€ WEAKNESS: High ground clearance underneath skirts.

[leorcc]

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never mind.

(Message edited by leorcc on August 13, 200

[leorcc]

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I really wish people dont change stats while I am busy calculating the old ones.

Based on Merlins shape with the differences you describe the monocoque is about 35kg. I think your robot could be in weight.

A couple of things though:

1: What is the fascination with Nitrogen? There is only one significant advantage (no freezing) and for the rest only downsides to the use of Nitrogen. I know the name of the robot is derived from it but is that does not mean you need to use it.


2: You will never no way fit 2 gasbottles in that robot. You will be hard pressed for 1. And the guesstimate for 20 flips? what do you base that on?

[kodster]

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Paul, were all laughing at your stats...except me. Im actually disappointed.

[paulc]

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Sorry about changing the stats. My thing with Nitrogen is the non-freezing quality, and also it seemed to be more powerful, and it was more appealing to use something other than C02

Im now changing the gas bottles - its now a single tank of 3kg, as I have 1kg to use, so its a single tank to provide less space take-up but more flips, as my original (I thought that GeForce had 2.2kg on baord, so I used the 20 flip figure, but it turns out it was 2 x 2.2kg, so I got it wrong. Best guess, I have 15 flips now)

But Ive got it on track now, so Kodster - I KEEP MY SPACE!

[kodster]

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Your dimensions are too small. Yes, smaller dimensions means you can fit more armour on, but you forget you have to fit EVERYTHING inside that tiny space as well.

[leorcc]

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More powerfull is a fallacy, pressure is pressure no matter what the gas is. 1kg of lead weighs the same as 1kg feathers. A 100mm diameter ram on 50 bar Nitrogen has the same force as 50 bar CO2 or 50 bar air.

Nitrogen is filled on pressure, not weight. You start at a slightly higher pressure than CO2, but within a couple of flips you will be flipping with less power than CO2, because the pressure drops quicker.


(Message edited by leorcc on August 13, 200

[kodster]

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lol Leo, I think he wants to use Nitrogen as the bots name, Nitro-Gene, is a pun on the word Nitrogen

[leorcc]

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I know.

[paulc]

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Its better an calling it Air-Gene or Carbo-Gene. It doesnt have the ring of Nitro-Gene

Kody, Im sorry youre disappointed with me, and I know me suddenly deleting my first 5.0 stats and going back to no. 4 was idiotic, but Leo has ticked everything now, so it should be fine.

And about the Nitrogen thing, all Ill say is I was looking at GeForce 4.0 when I made the stats for it, and I decided to go down the Nitrogen path.

(Message edited by paulc on August 13, 200

[kodster]

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Dont clone the master of clones. :wink:

And WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE DIMENSIONS???

[paulc]

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Im doing the changes on the ZED board,as I dont want to clog up this thread with criticism. Ive made it wider, as I only shortened it by 1cm from the previous version, which isnt too major, so its 63cm wide, not 57cm wide.

(Message edited by paulc on August 13, 200

[kodster]

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Youd best do it in the How Can I Improve thread, where we can SEE these changes.

[leorcc]

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quote:

Kody, Im sorry youre disappointed with me, and I know me suddenly deleting my first 5.0 stats and going back to no. 4 was idiotic, but Leo has ticked everything now, so it should be fine.Well lets not get to exited here. I just noticed you increased the bottle size. I said you would be hard pressed to fit even 1 bottle in, and now you switch to a bigger one.

Do yourself a favour. Draw a rectangle, in scale say 5:1 or so. draw in the ram, motors, wheels, batteries, bottle, and gearboxes. make sure you get the scale right on those. You will find that fitting it all in there is not going to be that simple.