Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

[corsair_lightning]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

If the S28-400 had a habit of burning out, people would've stopped using it quite a while ago.

That said, other half decent motors used in fanfic include the LEM-130(36v), PERM 80(24v/36v), and the Bosch 750(36v) or Litton 800(36v).

And let's just screw the argument and finish it in the arena. I don't want us continually screwing up Kody's thread.

[joey_picus]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

It might have slipped your mind that Shane is an experienced roboteer who has built many heavyweights, and that HE KNOWS MORE THAN WE DO ABOUT MOTORS AND THEIR BEHAVIOUR IN ROBOT APPLICATIONS :P

You are arguing yourself into a corner that you can't get out of here Mark, I'd advise you reconsider your position...

[corsair_lightning]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

Hence my edit.

[swanaldo]

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[kodster]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

Alright I've had about enough of this. Take this to PMs, please, or better yet just STOP. Thank you.

[swimm3r]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

hmm Under Pressure is a tough draw...

The plan is to flip/lift it over ASAP, but then don't flip it back. From then on just play it like Storm II vs. TAN, driving underneath and pushing it around, the barbs will help here. Don't try and flip it out of the arena unless an exceptional opportunity appears, settle for the pit.

Good luck Martijn!

As for the other fights I think Gabriel, not sure about the second match and Monsoon Season will advance

[team_orr]

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you guys crack me up! im gone 5 minuits and mark starts anouther argument
but seirious times now, mark shane is right, end of :wink:

[majinb]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

Martijn says:
OK!
I attack the sides!
so the crusher will pierce the front and the rear!
Kody says:
YES
DO
Martijn says:
I have 2WD, he has 2WD, it is possible!
Kody says:

Martijn says:
YES WE CAN!
MOVE TO THE SIDES, THE CRUSHER WILL DAMAGE THE ROUNDED REAR
AND THE FLIPPER!
THE FLIPPER!
Kody says:
YES
Martijn says:
anyhow, go for the sides, pit
and even if he flips me Im still a crusher
Kody says:
w00t
Martijn says:
just not one that can get underneath
but neither is TaN!
or Kan Opener!
Kody says:
Your claws are at a disadvantage though
They're highly fine pointed
Martijn says:
so even if flipped I will continue this tactic, my claws can still close in on him
Kody says:
and Apocalypse's front, sides, and rear are all angled.
Martijn says:
his rear isnt
Kody says:
I'll check the stats later on then
Martijn says:
his rear isnt but it has a skirt
my claws scrape along the ground so I cant really see why they couldnt get under wedges though, they are pushed to the ground by the mass of the claws, and Im pretty sure thats more than the mass of the skirts
so I should do fine
but even when inverted, my inverted claw can clamp his rounded rear
and pit! pit! pit!
and damage
Kody says:
lol kk
Please post that for me, I'm on my parents computer and messages aren't saved, so I may very likely forget
Martijn says:
... you tell me that now?!
couldnt you have told me that before my epic story?!xD
Kody says:

No.




THOSE SHALL BE MY TACTICS!!! GOOD LUCK LIAM!

[kodster]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

Since I have tactics from both Joey and Nav (Nav put in surprisingly detailed tactics, tbqh. Not ARC-sized, but still... :P) ...Round 2 shall be kicked off!

Round 2
Fight 1
Gabriel V vs. Qwertyuiop

Roboteers, stand by...

House robots: Renegade and Asterix Anarchius

3...
2...
1...
ACTIVATE!

And off we go! It's a speedy start as both opponent come flying in, but Qwertyuiop makes a last split-second swerve, and Gabriel ends up ramming air. Before Joey can rectify his mistake, Navaha swerves his machine back around and under the rear of Gabriel! Not ready to flip Gabriel over just yet, Navaha implements his strategy and heads for Renegade's CPZ. Once he gets near enough, Qwertyuiop tosses Gabriel into the CPZ, directly on top of the big house robot! Almost coming into close quarters with Renegade himself, Qwertyuiop backs away to just beyond the edge of the CPZ and waits patiently as Gabriel, stuck upside-down on Renegade at an absurd angle, tries to right itself. It sort of works, as Gabriel is self-righted, but is now stuck on Renegade's side, the wheels unable to touch ground! Qwertyuiop hurries to cover that edge of the CPZ as Renegade turns and bullies Gabriel against the CPZ, bringing the axe into play...or trying to, but the shaft hits one of the ears and is stopped. Seeing this, Navaha directs Qwertyuiop into the CPZ and flips Gabriel, still high-centered, further back into the CPZ, again on its back now. A sudden WHAM tells us that Asterix Anrchius has left his own CPZ and has crashed into Qwertyuiop from behind! Sandwiched between the two house robots, Qwertyuiop tries to toss Renegade out of the way. It doesn't work, and now Renegade is turning its attention to Qwertyuiop, or trying to, but the flipper is in the way! None of these problems can compete with Gabriel's, however. Joey tries to self-right again and again but Gabriel's pegged unceremoniously against the wall and can't use the srimech properly! Finally Qwertyuiop escapes the plight and Renegade turns its attention back to Gabriel, but Asterix isn't quite done with Navaha's creation yet and goes after it! Not to be a killjoy or anything, Asterix, but you can't wander out of your CPZ to attack someone who's NOT currently in a CPZ! As to confirm this, The Watcher bumps Asterix and gives him...oh ho ho ho, a yellow card! Haven't seen one of those in a while! You'd better get back to your CPZ, my Gaulish fiend!

Qwertyuiop, meanwhile, is continuing to prowl the edge of the CPZ that Gabriel is trapped in, and Joey's in a huge amount of trouble! Not only is Gabriel on its back, an axe has found its way into the underside thanks to Renegade! The claws of the mighty house robot, however, can't seem to find anything on Gabriel to grasp properly. Joey waits for Renegade's axe to retract, then tries self-righting again. It works, but again Gabriel is in the arms of the house robot, who brings the axe down once more! This time it hits the Hardox side, but doesn't do much to it. Qwertyuiop moves back into the CPZ slowly, Navaha expecting Joey to get free anytime now...and finally, Renegade backs off a bit, allowing Gabriel to slam back down onto the ground! Qwertyuiop rams it, but the nose cone, even after all that, is up to maximum capabilities, and Gabriel starts to shove Qwertyuiop out of the CPZ. Qwertyuiop's LEM's kick in and he pushes back. Renegade can't believe that Gabriel is still in the CPZ, and goes after him again. The shunt is all that Qwertyuiop needs, and it turns the nose cone aside, allowing Renegade to pin Gabriel to the wall. Only for the moment, however, as Renegade doesn't get fully under Gabriel and Joey is barely able to push the house robot away. Seemingly all for naught, however, as Navaha sees yet another golden opporunity and attacks Gabriel's side. He manages to slide under the side skirt and under the main body, but can't get a proper flip because Renegade is partly on top of Gabriel, so he keeps pushing. Down comes Renegade's axe again, but barely denting the armour and Qwertyuiop succeeds in pushing Gabriel out from under the house robot and...keeps pushing him? Strategy, perhaps? Yes indeed! Gabriel's being pushed straight towards one of the Discs of Death! Hold your breath, folks!

CRASH!!!

Oh how sad! One of the ears got it! And now it's nearly been torn right off! It's also nearly freed Gabriel from Qwertyuiop's flipper, but Navaha sees his control fading and decides to toss Gabriel over. Joey immediately self-rights but Navaha is right there as Gabriel lands and Qwertyuiop is under it again! He pushes Gabriel across the arena again...and back towards Renegade's CPZ! Dear me, the house robot must be a happy fellow today! Qwertyuiop tosses Gabriel once more into the CPZ, and again on top of the house robot. Only this time, Qwertyuiop goes straight for the pit release afterwards. Gabriel self-rights but is again stuck in Renegade's clutches. The axe comes down as Renegade pins Gabriel to the wall and starts smacking away with the axe! By now, Qwertyuiop has opened the pit and returned to the scene of slaughter, and Renegade doesn't look like letting up...until now. Renegade backs off and allows Gabriel to go free, but the angled sides look a bit battered from all that axeing and Gabriel jets out...only to be met by Qwertyuiop and brought to a halt! ...but look! Finally, Gabriel's nose cone defeats the flipper of Qwertyuiop and gets under it, allowing Gabriel to push Qwertyuiop about! Unfortunately, the awkward shape sends Qwertyuiop onto Gabriel's angled side, and Gabriel can't push him properly...seeing this, Joey tries firing the flipper. It works as Joey hoped; Qwertyuiop splats onto the floor inverted. It rights itself, but Gabriel coming in back gets under again and shoves it across the arena...towards the pit! But just as Joey ups the 'oomph' in Gabriel's motors, Qwertyuiop fires its own flipper and the force from this and from Gabriel's own charge sends Navaha's bot back over Joey's with a noisy clatter! Joey is so shocked at this he nearly drives into the pit himself! But Gabriel stops just short of the pit, and turns to face its opponent...which comes right at it, bumping into the nose cone and pushing with all its might...and succeeds in getting a very thunderstuck Gabriel V into the pit of oblivion! Last minute comeback denied...what a nearly one-sided upset this was!

CEASE!

Gabriel V is sent back to Hell as Joey wanders back home in polite disbelief.
Qwertyuiop advances to Round 3!

Next battle: Minesweeper 1.1 vs. Envy

[Navaha]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

Sorry, had some trouble with my account, but I'm back now.

[corsair_lightning]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

Well, with Envy's 2 wheels he'll be more maneuverable then me. I'll have more pushing power, but he'll be able to outmaneuver me if I try to get around to his side. Therefore, I'll ram him from the front. Hopefully I'll drive right over the top of Envy, and use the brief second to get under the back and ram into him. If this doesn't work, attack Envy at the sides, and wait for him to run out of gas. Overall, since neither of us has a damaging weapon, the damage category isn't really important. Overall, be aggressive and controlled.

[kodster]

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Fight 2
Minesweeper 1.1 vs. Envy

Roboteers, stand by...

House robots: Count Bleck, Damocles

3...
2...
1...
ACTIVATE!

Envy is off the mark (oh ho ho) immediately, and Minesweeper comes out to greet him. Mark's tactic doesn't quite work out as well as he planned, as both robots bang into each other and come to a halt, and then Envy's leverage and front weight advantages get the better of Minesweeper; Envy easily gets under the front scoop of Minesweeper, beaching it on the wedge for a bit. Not wasting any time, Envy shoots straight into Damocles' CPZ and using the flipper flings Minesweeper straight into the house robot before Mark can drive off.

CRASH! CRASH!!!

Now that's a sight for sore eyes, and a rare sight indeed! Minesweeper, flung into the CPZ, almost went overtop of the house robot but the rear scoop caught the front drum of Damocles and nearly got torn right off; the blow did, however, send Minesweeper into one of the side drums, sending Minesweeper flying along the wall with several scratches running down the side! Mark gapes at the sight, but before he can make a move, Shane is right there, Envy collecting Minesweeper on the wedge and flinging it back into the CPZ, over top of the two unspinning drums but into the rear one!

CRASH!!!

And that's the match gone!!! Ah, the benefits of having four separate drums, eh Damocles? The rear drum did indeed come into play here...only it sent Minesweeper straight over the fence and crashing onto the camera tracks, further scratched! Indeed, a drum dishing out over 150kJ can do that to you. Sadly, the house robot has determined the entire fight and Shane, feeling robbed of a good fight, intends to make him pay! The English robot gets under the front immobile drum and sweeps under the house robot, signalling the rage of our very own Count Bleck, who spins over! The audience's boos at such a short fight now turn to cheers as Envy tries to flip Damocles, but no one can attack now...because:

CEASE!

Minesweeper gets bombed and swept away! Thankfully Mark can still take it home in one piece.
Envy advances to Round 3!

Next battle: Mornington Crescent vs. Monsoon Season

[corsair_lightning]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

It might be just me, but I don't think house robots are supposed to totally decide who wins the fight, plus I feel causing that to happen was just a lazy excuse to get me out...

But either ways, congrats, Shane. I have a couple of things to do to Minesweeper 4 now...

[RogueTwoRobots]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

It might be just me, but I don't think house robots are supposed to totally decide who wins the fight, plus I feel causing that to happen was just a lazy excuse to get me out...

I agree - Kody, you should have utilised a much fairer means of elimination, like thermite or something...

[kodster]

Re: Crash & Burn: Mini-Tournament of Death 3

It might be just me, but I don't think house robots are supposed to totally decide who wins the fight, plus I feel causing that to happen was just a lazy excuse to get me out...

I agree - Kody, you should have utilised a much fairer means of elimination like, say, thermite....

Only NOW you tell me this? Thermite...ingenious idea...