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[dinowarrior]

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Ah, but a pneumatic ram is NOT from a vapourbot.

[neontetra23]

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neither is that walking mechanism

[dinowarrior]

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You said it was from ArchAngel of the Abyss. Thats deliberately copying.

[joey_picus]

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He can use another robots system of movement, provided he fully understands it and has a reason for copying it as opposed to using his own...but from what Ive been asking Ben doesnt seem to understand how it works or how much it would weigh, and I repeat what I said earlier about keeping it simple.

(incidentally, I asked Alex over MSN how they system worked, and after many diagrams it seems to be borderline on shuffling)

[leorcc]

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Where can I find any links to this system?

[leorcc]

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Chris, I understand what you are saying, but it is like me saying It has the wheels of Storm II when I mean vulkalon coated wheels. It not like I snuck into Eds workshop and took its wheels off to copy them.

(Message edited by leorcc on July 17, 200

[majinb]

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In case of vapourbots I dislike seeing things like same mechanism as archangel of the abyss.
Alex invested an amount of time in coming up with the srimech, no matter how simple it is, and after that he invested time in explaining how it works.
With your solution Ben, you basically say just see what Alex already did for me

[dinowarrior]

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Leo, I understand, but Storm 2 is a REAL robot, ArchAngel of the Abyss is a VAPOURbot. Theres a difference.

[joey_picus]

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To be fair, Alex didnt invent the mechanism...and its not as if stealing things from other vapours is all that bad (hello, Mr Paramagnetic LOX Box), its just when you do it without fully appreciating things and just duct tape the parts together then theres a problem. You cant exactly talk, Chris, considering how much originality is in your designs...

[Guest]

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Replacing Pi to break up arguements in this thread and because Pi was crap I would like someone to check over... Exodus!

http://strickenone.proboards99.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=teamww&thread=371&p age=1http://strickenone.proboards99.com/i...teamww&thread= 371&page=1

[Guest]

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Incidentally, what is the maximum operating pressure for nitrogen?

[joey_picus]

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I dont think having interchangable angled wedges is really going to help - it falls in the category of a wedge is a wedge and stating the angle isnt really going to give you advantages or disadvantages when battles are written.

The other thing is that with fully vulkanised tracks, you will need some serious batteries to get you through a full match because your motors are going to be drawing more current to fight the friction when turning, and that might take it overweight with some setups, especially when you consider the current needed for hydraulic pumps.

Otherwise, quite good

[joey_picus]

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Max operating pressure is something like 2400psi, but the FRA rules prohibit pressures higher than 1000psi.

(they also prohibit nitrogen for some reason, but us vapourboteers ignore that bit )

[Guest]

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Thanks, Ill probably keep the wedges anyway just to make it more interchangeable

[dinowarrior]

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Joey, I know my designs are hardly original by any definition of the word, but I do know which REAL robots they come from. I dont try and pinch any ideas from existing vapourbots without knowing which real robots they are based on first.

Long story short, I think it would have been better if Ben had found out which real robot has a mechanism closest to ArchAngel of the Abyss, and stated that. Theres a logical difference if you ask me.