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**spinnerboy** · 13 March 2004, 12:10

Is this even worth fighting for?

My comments being a bit low unusual for me. Still big girls they are..

**steven_mcg** · 13 March 2004, 13:20

Is this even worth fighting for?

its a bit like all the people who always downed Napalm, but as far as I see, Napalm should be commended for their efforts, even if they didnt get through a round.

Actually, in every single War the team have competed in, David Crosby and co have ALWAYS managed to get to at least Round 2

(including the Ex 1 Annihilator they had to pull out of)

And as for the Razer thing, its the teams decision whether they should compete or not

, so shut your yappers and just enjoy the new generation of demolishers

Its not like well ever forget such a terrifying machine anyway

**anukhet** · 13 March 2004, 15:00

Is this even worth fighting for?

What machine is that?
Love Dorie the Fish

**s8nsmum** · 13 March 2004, 15:35

Is this even worth fighting for?

oh boy, here we go again.......

**jamesb** · 16 March 2004, 14:18

Is this even worth fighting for?

Regretting this joke every day. As I was told not long ago, as I am seen as the Razer bum boy (whatever that means) my original post was taken too seriously.

I would say, unless you have met the teams, and discussed the situation with them, and been around when things developed then nobody can know the truth. Not putting anyone down with that, but its a complicated issue and involves many things that are not robotwars.

I would have said that Aaron is so far away, (in Oz) he cannot know the roboteers, but the comment You guys suckass, get a decent spinner is so uncanny I think he may know us in the UK better than we think

(retort to Chris O)

ps, I know Karoline, no need to say it.....

**spinnerboy** · 16 March 2004, 17:10

Is this even worth fighting for?

Dont no what u mean James.

**shredderteam** · 16 March 2004, 18:28

Is this even worth fighting for?

You guys suckass, get a decent spinner

Hehehehe

Yep.. youre probably right there anyway

Sam
P.S I didnt dis Razer even once.. read the thread again, Ive questioned there reasons for not attending RW and I didnt agree with their party line... but hey... its still a great machine!

**Guest** · 16 March 2004, 23:11

Is this even worth fighting for?

But where would Robot Wars be without the dreaded vinyl player that is Shredder??

**anukhet** · 16 March 2004, 23:16

Is this even worth fighting for?

i thought it more of a reel-2-reel tape deck than a dj deck

**shredderteam** · 16 March 2004, 23:46

Is this even worth fighting for?

Perhaps we should just fit a stylus and be done with it..

Im sure thered be some enterprising DJ out there who could fit a 100kilo aluminium and titanium deck into his stage set..

Couple of disco lights mounted behind the holes in the wheels and hed be away

Any offers for the purchase then?

Sam

**fluppet** · 16 March 2004, 23:50

Is this even worth fighting for?

I can see a very amusing srimech in that idea.

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Fluppet

**jamesb** · 17 March 2004, 13:12

Is this even worth fighting for?

stick a 15inch subwoofer on the back and you could be in business there Sam

although, finding a DJ into heavymetal may prove difficult.

For the record, I think Shredder is one of the better spinners in the Uk, just hasnt had the tv coverage to prove it. I take Debenham last year, and the RW qualifiers as my justification for thinking its under-rated by the general public.

**tom_b** · 17 March 2004, 13:20

Is this even worth fighting for?

As I probably mentioned in my last post:

Quote: P.S. Razer rocks!!

I quite like Razer, it is a fantastic piece of engineering. Also Ive been chronicling Razers combat history (as well as Robot Wars, it also include friendly tournaments & Battlebots, but it does not include fan fic tournaments), it has notched up a impressive 60 fights, thats 50 fight wins & 10 fight losses which for a machine which started off its trophy cabinet by winning a Best Design in Series 2 that later went on to win World championship titles & even the UK title during its 4th year. Now that is impressive & I totally respect them for their fight record!!

**jamesb** · 17 March 2004, 14:04

Is this even worth fighting for?

especially when you think that the robot was mostly unchanged from series 2.

yes, the wings, new motors, new speed controllers, new batteries, new wheels..... ok, a lot changed, but the weapon itself still uses the same hydraulics it always did, so it never got any more powerful. For it to still be the best (Ill add vertical) crusher... to date as far as Im aware, is something I have always respected.

Maybe there is a lesson to be learned here?
Razer developed a concept, and won.
Motis developed a concept, and didnt win.
Storm 2 was a compltely new concept and won.
how many robots are new concepts each year?

The lesson being??? there are no hard and fast rules as to what works and what doesnt, whats crap and whats great. I think a robot should be judged on its achievements, and Ill stick with that statement, even if a lot of its achievements are not so widely known.

**storm** · 17 March 2004, 14:32

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James, Im not sure we won according to the judges ! I think theres a spinning lampshade that might dispute your claim there :P

Know what you mean though, its hard to predict what might or might not do well. Storm II was about taking a concept to an extreme, Razer was about refining a design to an extreme.

As a team I think we were oblivious to the fact that Storm II seemed to be a favourite at Series 7, I guess thats because we know all the flaws that it has !

Ed
http://www.teamstorm.com

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