Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

[kodster]

Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

The world is full of terrible judges decisions. Examples are:

Gravedigger vs. Steg-O-Saw-Rus (Robot Wars Series 3)
Gamma Raptor vs. Dr. Inferno Jr. (Battlebots Season 3)
Wedge of Doom vs. Dr. Inferno Jr. (Battlebots Season 5)

Yeah...that sucks, doesnt it? I was especially outraged at the Gamma Raptor fight...that shouldve went his way. He twice nearly upended the Dr. and was way more aggressive. plus he did tons of damage to the skirts.

[psychostorm]

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May I add?

The Morgue vs Firestorm and Suicidal Tendancies vs Wheely Big Cheese.

The seed in both occasions clearly fall into the pit before their opponent can considered immobile so the Judges have to bail them out.

And then both seeds lose the next round. Thats gratitude for you.

[craig_anto]

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Storms not loud and annoying, its Ed

Kody - Gamma raptor lost on strategy the good dr was very well driven, from recalection Gamma Raptor lost also on aggression, because it didnt look in control not like it had in prior fights unpopular decicion maybe right decision? definatly

Theres lost of bad decisions but its down to the judges opinion, ive lost judges decisions that i wanted to lash out about but it doesnt matter at the end of the day so why get wound up about it

[paulc]

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I remember the Storm 2 vs. Typhoon battle - I was so shocked I cried! :sad:

The other fight that got my goat was in November 2006 for the Winter Tour finals.
The battle was between Storm 2 and Merlin for 3rd place.
The judge didnt make himself popular when Storm 2 lost the vote, despite being the much more aggresive and also the fact that MERLIN WAS ON FIRE!!!!!.

Its marvellous what these judges can do when they put their minds to it - nothing

[anukhet]

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Oi!!

BTW it wasnt me that time :wink:

[teammad]

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Merlin was on fire? Must have missed that bit

The fight is on youtube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RD-tK_a662g

I think a major thing was that at one point merlin got storm against the wall and fight could have been over.

(Message edited by teammad on October 25, 2007)

[paulc]

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Yes David, but you let Storm 2 back down when you went for the OOTA, when you know that Storms shape and height makes it a hard robot to flip. My other query is why wasnt Merlin moving much, and when it did move it was very slow.

[teammad]

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We have got it out before, you would have to check with Alan (as he was driving), but the reason we went for the flip out was that we were no longer fight for anything, If the fight had still been in the main comp we prob would have left storm for the count out then put them back into the fight, but in fights like those you take the gamble of flipping out or putting them back in.

Just watch the vid, Merlin seems to be fine, when you compare Merlin (or most robots) to the speed of Storm, they will seem slow.

[john]

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firestorm vs razer 1 series aswel dont no which 1

was obv firestorm won but they cut it on tv so much they made it look the opposite

[paulc]

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I see David, but didnt the judge base the vote on Aggression - can I ask everybody this question, was Storm 2 more aggressive than Merlin? My answer is yes, it was, and I dont see how the judge didnt get that. And Im sure Merlin was having trouble.

If anybody asks why I said that Merlin caught fire, its because I heard someone shout Fire! Fire! and then everyone crowded around Merlin with fire extinqushers.

[tom_kane]

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I agree with perhaps Merlin was running a bit slow but just because they started slow, you cant just give storm 2 the points for damage they didn€™t cause. (I can€™t remember why they were slow though.) Merlin flipped storm 2 9 times I think, and I counted 3 good slams from storm 2 but about the same misses, slamming them selves into the wall, which I believe is minus points. Leaving storm with very few. So in answer to your question, no.

Tom

[paulc]

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I noticed more than 3 slams. I counted 11. Plus, even my dad, who was surportting Merlin said Storm 2 should have won (We spent months debeting it), but it does show the stress the judges go through as they have to debat months of arguing in 2-5 minutes.

Back on the Merlin vs. Storm 2 issue, I dont think Im going to win this argument.

So prehaps I could bring up the semi that Merlin lost - against Iron Awe 3:

I was there and I saw the fight. Can I ask, why did one of the best drivers, Alan Young, leave his side open to an attack, even when Iron Awe was vulnerable, you never made a move!

EXPLAIN...

[teammad]

Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

I counted 4 slams. Many slams missed Merlin, others Merlin had got off Storm 2 by the time storm hit the wall.

Merlins flipper wasnt working in the Iron Awe fight (a wire had shorted going into the Electronize switch). I dont have a video of the fight but from memory the fight started with merlin going under Iron Awe - Did nothing. Then Iron Awe went under Merlin, Iron Awe drove Merlin to the arena wall, As he was pushing merlin to the wall Merlin managed to drive one side of the robot off Iron Awes flipper, resulting in iron awe flipping merlin OOTA from the side.

[tom_kane]

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Back on the Merlin vs. Storm 2 issue, I dont think Im going to win this argument.

Don€™t stop on my account, the decision has already been made therefore it is not an argument, just a discussion. I was merely putting my view forward, if you feel strongly about wrong decisions in relation to robots! This is the place to discuss them!

Tom

[paulc]

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Sorry to both Tom and David - I didnt relise how cruel I was being. Im sure that the flipper was working though, or at least Rob Grimm says so on his website.

And now we are discussing the Storm 2 vs. Merlin battle, I dont think that flipping Storm 2 was scoring many points on the side of Merlin, as Storm ran away and self-righted, came in on the attack and shoved you to Manchester and back!

And also, you said on that thread in the Competitors section, that yor flipper failed at the Colchester final, when it was clearly working, as you got the first flip in then.

Sorry if Im being too hyper or manic. I just have a vaster knowledge than most people i.e my family