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  • Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

    I know it was a year ago now but i have only just seen it-

    2006 roaming robots championships-

    storm 2 v terrorhurtz

    I think it was clear that terrorhurtz was winning the fight,storm 2 did get some good pushes in,but look at the damage terrorhurtz did to that piece of ti (i think) on top of storm 2.And terrorhurtz got a good few hits on the wheels causing sparks and then at the end of the fight terrorhurtz got its axe stuck on the corner of the arena.It was still mobile though you can see it is,you can see the robot moving slightly trying to get un-stuck.But it LOST the fight.I think thats controvesial,terrorhurtz did the damage and should of won.

    Have i missed something?

    (no offence to storm 2 as they are a very good robot-in fact the same thing happened in the (boring and short) final when turbulence stacked storm 2 on the wall)

    Other than that a hell of an event.One of the best.

  • #2
    Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

    THZ was immobile, therefore counted out. also the Ti ontop of Storm was sacrificial; therefore none of the damage it took was counted.

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    • #3
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      To elaborate on what Alan has said - THz, although trying to free itself, did not within 30 seconds therefore was considered immobile.

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      • #4
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        So the ti on storm was added on.I get it.

        What went wrong with THZ then?

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        • #5
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          Edit:100th post wo-ho!

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          • #6
            Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

            Interesting on the sacrificial armour. All the armour on Ka-Pow! is sacrificial- does that mean that no external damage counts?

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            • #7
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              I belive that thz would have won with ease but as he was stuck lost, if it went on damage style agro thz would have won but doh happens lol

              if you have armour on a bot and it is damaged you will loose as well

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              • #8
                Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

                The additional armour panel on top is designed as sacrificial armour. It is wholely additional with the original robot underneath in its normal guise, hence why it can be declared sacrificial and why you cannot label your normal armour as sacrificial. (I realise you are joking John W - just making things clear)

                Storm II is normally running under weight hence the ability to add this piece.

                THz managed some good hits down one side rail by the wheels and was on top of the fight at the start, we were coming back strongly with some good slams across the arena at the time we stuck THz on the wall.

                As it happens it was subsequently discovered, I believe, that we had broken one of THzs motors and so would have been able to take more control of the fight even they had not got stuck and may have been able to make it more convincing.

                As much as anything it was a tactic of letting THz lose some gas hitting the top before taking more risks in attacking back

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                • #9
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                  Any damage wheather sacrificial or original armour all counts as damage as the judge on the day quite rightly said. just because its added extra to get hit it dosnt mean that damage doesnt count. damage is damge where ever it is.

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                  • #10
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                    Thats what Im saying.
                    Although of course I was kidding around Tim, I was doing it to make a point. Of course you can have sacrificial armour to give you an extra layer of protection against a big hitter like THz, if you have the weight budget to do it, but it doesnt make sense to say that damage taken to it doesnt count just because its additional for that fight and declared sacrificial. Its simply an optional extra layer. We really could run Ka-Pow! with skinny plywood or polycarb armour against other flippers and just add our usual armour (such as it is...) when we fight robots like yours or Kan-Opener and call it sacrificial to avoid the damage counting. Cant see anyone buying that!
                    Doesnt this go back to Mentorn encouraging the use of easily damaged interesting-looking add-ons that would look good on TV and allowing them to be declared so damage to themd be discounted on judges score sheets?

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                    • #11
                      Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

                      That is indeed the Mentorn explanation of sacrificial armour. Stuff that gets knocked off the robot or shatters for effect, but not really part the real armour.

                      An addon like the top plate on Storm is not sacrificial, but like the anti razer cage is an interchangable weapon, more a interchangable armour.

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                      • #12
                        Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

                        In my opinion, Storm 2 was the better engineered robot in that particular fight, and deserved to win. Although I seem to read that both machines were damage, Storm 2 seemed to take the most damage, as it was moving quite slowly.
                        And its also making an awful whining noise when it moves.

                        But the fact that THZ was stck means it lost.

                        (My opinion)

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                        • #13
                          Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

                          Anything can happen in a fight and very often does.

                          Also, are you sure that its actually Storm 2 making that noise?

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                          • #14
                            Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

                            Storm 2 always makes a awful noise......the worlds loudest robot?

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                            • #15
                              Storm 2 v terrorhurtz

                              storm 2 kinda got lucky in this fight (as thz was dominating)

                              but in series 7 final i think storm 2 were dominating and were un lucky to win

                              so doesnt always go the way it should

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