How could I Improve pt 2

[knightrous]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Hardox or any other steel on a feather is certainly possible, but how thick depends on the rest of the robot of course.

My new feather, Hardox armour.

Yep, it's certainly doable, my old wedge had 3.2mm Hardox 450 and 5-6mm Farm Steel (Plough Disc!)


It's all about the thickness and amount used

[CPA23]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Ok, New Vapour.

Nucleus:
Shape: T-Minus with side skirts
Colour: Grey with a yellow flipper
Weight: 100kg
Drive: 2 S28 Magmotors @ 24V
Power: 6 Intercooled NiCad Battlepacks @ 24V
Motivation: Thick Titanium treads with a Urethane coating
Speed: 12mph
Armour: 4mm Hardox
Ground Clearance: 0mm at front, 0mm at sides, 10mm at rear and under skirts
Turning Circle: 0
Dimensions: 100x70x35
Weapons:
Weapon 1: A high-pressure rear-hinged nitrogen flipper running at 1000psi powered by 2 125x75 rams running off of a 3kg Nitrogen tank
Weapon 2: The scoop on the front is covered in titanium barbs
Srimech: Flipper

[kodster]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Hi, CPA23, welcome back! Good vapour there, but there's a few problems with it...

1) The B42 MagMotors...they are more properly called BFA42 MagMotors. Also, they come in specific series, such as 500, 600, and a few others. Which one are you referring to?

2) A123 cells come in multiples of 3.3v, so they don't equal 48v exactly. Also, how many cells are in those 8 packs? The number of cells dictates the voltage you will have.

3) The ground clearance is a bit sketchy. If you mean that the ground clearance at both the front and rear is 0, then it won't move. Also, 3mm is a bit small itself, you might want to bump that up to 10mm so you don't have trouble driving.

4) With the armour you have on, the 100/80/50cm dimensions you have are quite optimistic, and lessening the armour will solve the weight problem but make your robot more vulnerable. You should lower one or two of the dimensions a bit.

5) You can't run Nitrogen pneumatics from a CO2 tank.

6) Shouldn't the titanium barbs be visible from the side view?

7) You should have a front and/or top view to compliment the side view, it helps us visualize it better that way.

Yeah, try and fix those things and we should be all set.

[CPA23]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Ok, thanks for the help.

1: Which would you reccomend?

2: I'll change the batteries to Intercooled NiCad Battlepacks http://www.robotcombat.com/products/...tercooled.html, but how many should I use and at what voltage?

3: I'll up the ground clearance to 10mm and lose the back skirt

4: The new dimensions will be 100x70x35

5: Ok, my bad. I meant a nitrogen tank, I apologise for this, it was like 2 AM.

6&7: I will fix the picture & add a new picture tommorow.

[kodster]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

1/2) If you're going with NiCad Battlepacks instead, then I would recommend either S28-400 MagMotors (more power but less thermal energy) or C40-300 MagMotors (bit less power but more thermal energy so they'll last longer), and I'd recommend running the S28s on 24v/C40s on 36v, and using at least 5 or 6 Battlepacks for either.

3) Okay.

4) Seems doable to me, although other people might question it.

5) It's okay, I have made stats late before and have had to change them for it. :P

6/7) Yep, it's all good. For a paint pic that was actually a pretty good attempt, although if you feel up to it, you may want to try your hand at 3d-modelling programs such as Rhino or SolidWorks (Rhino is a bit easier to use) to give an even better visualization.

[CPA23]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Ok, I will try Rhino but in the meantime I will post a new picture using paint.

Edit: Just looking through your vapours and my robot lookes suprisingly like Fulcrum.

[kodster]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Ok, I will try Rhino but in the meantime I will post a new picture using paint.

No problem at all, mate, your pic was pretty good after all. I started out using Paint, although I deleted all my old paint pics before 2005.

[CPA23]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Just noticed a mistake in my stats, Nucleus is 10kg too light, so I will upgrade the Nitrogen tank from 3kg to 5kg and and have 7 battlepacks instead of 6

[death robotics]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Iv'e made a new robot which will replace a bot Mark gave me

4-Bar Discount

Weight: 100kg
Shape: A box wedge that has a wedge on all sides, like Storm 2, but with a rounded rear
Colour: Grey with blue and red stripes
Dimensions: 0.67m x 0.78m x 0.68m
Drive: 4x 24v S28-400 Magmotors, powered by 7x 3000mAh NiCad Battlepacks.
Locomotion: 4 Storm 2 style wheels
Armour: 2mm Polycarbonate baseplate. Everything else is 40mm HDPE to combat axes
Speed: 14mph
Ground Clearance. 0mm's at front. 7mm elsewhere
Turning circle: That of a pizza machine. 0
Weapon: A 4-Bar flipper which is powered by a 4kg nitrogen tank and a 100mm ram at 1000psi . The bot also has static spikes at the rear for extra protection.
Srimech: Flipper of course
Strenghs: Good flipper. Good armour and plenty of potential
Weakness: Um..... Not sure.
Bio: A bot that seeks to beat you to a bloody pulp
Win/Loss Ratio: N/A

What do you think

[kodster]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

I think...

1) 2mm polycarbonate is too thin, even for a baseplate

2) It's incredibly tall for a box wedge.

3) It's okay, minus above points 1 and 2.

[death robotics]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

OK thanks for the advice Kody

Revised stats

4-Bar Discount

Weight: 100kg
Shape: A box that has a wedge on all sides, like Storm 2, but with a rounded rear
Colour: Grey with blue and red stripes
Dimensions: 0.67m x 0.78m x 0.68m
Drive: 4x 24v S28-400 Magmotors, powered by 7x 3000mAh NiCad Battlepacks.
Locomotion: 4 Storm 2 style wheels
Armour: 6mm Polycarbonate baseplate. Everything else is 40mm HDPE to combat axes
Speed: 14mph
Ground Clearance. 0mm's at front. 7mm elsewhere
Turning circle: That of a pizza machine. 0
Weapon: A 4-Bar flipper which is powered by a 4kg nitrogen tank and a 100mm ram at 1000psi . The bot also has static spikes at the rear for extra protection.
Srimech: Flipper of course
Strenghs: Good flipper. Good armour and plenty of potential
Weakness: Um..... Not sure.
Bio: A bot that seeks to beat you to a bloody pulp
Win/Loss Ratio: N/A

[CPA23]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Kody, I made the picture you asked for, but could only fit 3 sets of barbs on the picture, there should be two more sets of barbs (See original post).

[CPA23]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Can someone check this please.

Bruxism
Shape: Wedge with sloped sides and rear + side and rear torsion sprung skirts
Colour: Like teeth and gums
Weight: ~98.2kg
Drive: 2 S28 400 Magmotors @ 24V Geared at 1.5:1
Power: 9 NiCad Battlepacks @ 24V
Motivation: Two small rubber wheels with Hardox hubs, the are a similar size to Iron Awe 5€™s wheels
Speed: 23mph
Armour: 5mm Hardox
Ground Clearance: 0 all round, 5mm under skirts
Turning Circle: 0
Dimensions: 150x60x40
Weapons:
Weapon 1: A 10kg axe powered by a 150x120 ram, the axe head is like Dominator 2€™s axe but the spike is longer
Weapon 2: In front of the axe shaft there is a Hardox panel, when the axe is fired it acts as a forward hinged flipper
Srimech: Flipper or axe, take your pick

[Guest]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

PSYCHO

BODY SHAPE: Short, fat cone. Short for a cone anyway

WEIGHT: 100kg

DIMENSIONS (L X W X H): 75cm [without spike] x 75cm x 30cm

COLOUR: Crazy mix of primary colours and some green with the name written in silver with blood red outline around the outside

LOCOMOTION: 4 x internal custom-built HDPE wheels 85mm in diameter with vulcanised tyres.

GROUND CLEARANCE: 10mm

DRIVE MOTORS: 2 x S28-400 magmotors run @ 24v

DRIVE BATTERIES: 2 x NiCad battlepacks running at 24v in parallel

SPEED: 15mph

TURNING CIRCLE: 0 metres

BODY ARMOUR: 7mm hardox monocoque, the removable panel is the base, which is 5mm aluminium

CHASSIS: 7mm hardox monocoque

WEAPON 1: The shell has two huge curved blades on either side that are actually part of the shell so that they cannot be ripped off. They are tungsten tipped and the shell spins up to 3000rpm in 3 seconds via 2 x S28-400 magmotors @ 24v to make one deadly weapon.

SRIMECH: There is a pole that sticks out of the top of the robot and is bent to a 90 degree angle like . It works like Megabyte's, pushing the robot back onto its wheels when flipped.

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ARMAGEDDON

BODY SHAPE: Basic box with front hinged wedges and rear battering ram

WEIGHT: 100kg

DIMENSIONS (L X W X H): 90cm x 80cm x 25cm

COLOUR: See CAD

LOCOMOTION: 4 x internal but invertible custom-built HDPE wheels 270mm in diameter with vulcanised tyres.

GROUND CLEARANCE: 10mm, this is protected on the front by the hinged wedges and on the sides by the skirts

DRIVE MOTORS: 4 x S28-400 magmotors run @ 24v

DRIVE BATTERIES: 8 x NiCad battlepacks running at 24v in parallel

SPEED: 20mph

TURNING CIRCLE: 0 metres

BODY ARMOUR: 4mm hardox monocoque

CHASSIS: 4mm hardox monocoque

SKIRTS: 5mm grade 2 titanium, hinged wedges are 7mm of the same stuff

WEAPON 1: The set of 5 hinged wedges at the front of the robot are very effective at getting under other robots to help in pushing them around.

WEAPON 2: The battering ram at the rear of the robot is shock mounted and is made of 1cm think grade 2 titanium, so it will flex under pressure from spinners rather than being ripped off, like Behemoth's scoop

SRIMECH: Invertible, works just as well as upside down.

STRENGTHS: Strong and powerful

Could somebody check these stats for War of the Weapons please? I'm more or less sure about Armageddon, but Psycho I'm not so happy about, I've never attempted an FBS before.

[tacoman]

Re: How could I Improve pt 2

Hey guys, I haven't been around for... not sure how long, but considering I have an unread PM from January 2009 in my inbox at ZED, quite a while. I'm thinking about entering tournaments again when some open, but I'm quite out of the loop when it comes to the quality expected of vapourbots these, days, so if someone has the time spare to look over my robots hosted here, (Thanks to Kody for keeping them on his site, by the way) I'd really appreciate it.