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[team_britespark]

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Bored so gave each of my vapours a different entrance song and a linky to the videos on Youtube.

Supreme - Through the Fire and Flames by DragonForce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a1WBo9UA4Yhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a1WBo9UA4Y

Pure Evil: Back To Basics - Not Over Yet by The Klaxons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4yxoHwNzEEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4yxoHwNzEE

Dervish: Generation X - Propane Nightmares by Pendulum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZBQMJlVXychttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZBQMJlVXyc

Noo Monsoon - Work (Freemasons Remix) by Kelly Rowland: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBwpbOkgQy4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBwpbOkgQy4

Weapon Synergy Unleashed - I Predict a Riot by The Kaiser Chiefs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spYcp0ZB4nMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spYcp0ZB4nM

DreamCatcher - I Still Remember by Bloc Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wcnKOfsu0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wcnKOfsu0

Champagne - One Night Only (Disco Version) from the movie Dreamgirls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-OP8KGMsrghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-OP8KGMsrg

Requiem - Requiem for a Dream by Clint Mansell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwU

Kobe - Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQR-OsH0RQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQR-OsH0RQ

Deadly Lampshade - Dont Stop Believing by Journey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA

Claw (From the old Weapon Synergy)- The Black Parade by My Chemical Romance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nw1-_5-Vkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nw1-_5-Vk

The Bone Collector - This Is Halloween from The Nightmare Before Christmas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAFG1mWwzF4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAFG1mWwzF4

Cause and Effect - Beat It by Fall Out Boy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmL2LeuhY4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmL2LeuhY4

Panda-Mick - Kung Fu Fighting (Sped Up): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_KgSUA6yakhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_KgSUA6yak

[Guest]

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I dont think theres much point of a grudge match between Apocalypse and Nitro-Gene Paul, sorry.

[team_britespark]

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I agree, Liam. Besides it is a bit unfair: Apocalypse fighting a SHW...

[paulc]

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Daniel - Nitro-Gene is NOT overweight. Not version 4.0 anyway

[joey_picus]

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Is Nitro-Gene 4.0 the one with the 5mm/6mm armour, the four LEMs and the 100mm nitrogen flipper?

[team_britespark]

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Paul: trust me. 5mm Hardox armouring, 4 LEMs and a nitrogen flipper inside a 100kg robot is absolutely proposterous.

1) You dont need thick amounts of Hardox armour when even 4mm is going to be tough to dent. You can get thicker amounts of lighter armour instead to take the weight down.

2) Why not take 2 LEMs out and give the machine a skid steer turning capability (think Razer or Growler). Youll still have lots of HP and good manouevrability. The weight taken from the removal of the motors can mean more armour in certain places.


I am not nit-picking here, Paul, just helping you out. Please at least read my suggestions.

[joey_picus]

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Paul, look at Dans latest version of Pure Evil:

http://strickenone.proboards99.com/index.cgi?board=teambv&action=display&thread=308http://strickenone.proboards99.com/i...isplay&thread= 308

Its basically the same as Nitro-Gene 4/5, apart from the shape and two less motors.
It needs tracks, and therefore the extra 10kgs, in order to fit all that in, and that is with two less motors than your 100kg robot.

Food for thought...

[paulc]

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1. It had the thick Hardox when I started, so I rtemoved 2 wheels to cut down on weight for the gears and chains needed for 6 wheels, and it meant I would only need the weight of the motors, as 1 motor powered 1 wheel.

2. IT DOES HAVE A SKID-STEER AS IT CAN TURN ON THE SPOT!!

[team_britespark]

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Paul, forget it. Youre obviously a lost cause in this.

[leorcc]

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Paul, can give me your weight analysis of Nitro-Gene? How much for armour, motor, batteries, wheels, gears, weapon, etc?

[kodster]

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Paul, if you dont do something about those stats, I am personally ousting you from FVAL. I am sure you do not want that, so if I were you, Id seriously look over Nitro-Genes stats. Right now.

[razerdave]

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Flaming Hell

Weight: 100kg
Dimensions: 90x90x60 cm
Weapon: a triangular spinning cage with 3 sharpened bot openers on each end, weighing 5kg each, spinning at 3000 RPM, powered by a Lem 130 on 36v, which, theoretically, puts out 82.471 KJ
Power: 2x Bosch 750 motors at 24v (its been made so that the cage motor gets 36v but the drive only gets 24, as the drive is ok as it is on 24V)
Shape: circular base with triangular cage atop
Speed: 15mph
Drive power: 4bph
Notes: Flag atop to show direction and to aid self righting, and the cage spins 2mm from the ground. Small bearings for the cage and the far set apart wheels give it increased stability for a FBS
Turning Circle: 0cm
Armour: 3mm titanium
Wheel Type - 4 small wheelbarrow type wheels (no need for great traction)
Strengths: Power of cage
Weakness: Unpredictable bounce off from an opponent

Hell Machine

Weight: 100kg
Dimensions: 140x100x60 cm
Weapons: A rack and pinion driven 16 bar max, 250mm stroke, 100mm bore axe, pressure is adjustable to suit, on 16 bar it delivers a 900kg blow and 2300J of energy
Srimech: Axe
Speed: 17MPH
Transmission: a 4 wheeled version of TerrorHurtz: 4 x 9:52 ger ratio, but with magmotors in place of Bosch 750€™s
Turning Circle: 0m
Ground clearance: 0 at the scoop and wedge edge, 2mm the rest of the way around
Wheel Type: Vulcanised Aluminium, 130mm diameter
Body Shape: scoop fronted, wedged back
Armour: 12mm HDPE all over, and 3.2mm Hardox wedge piece that runs the width at the front. All panels are shock mounted on rubber bushings, plus HDPE is generally absorbing anyway
Colour: Black with flame face on scoop and name in blood writing on side, devil head on rear wedge
Strengths: EXTREMELY powerful axe, relentless in attacking (until a robot is immobile)
Weakness: Spinners

Name: Sheer Hell
Weight: 100kg
Dimensions: 150cm x 80cm x 120cm
Shape: low angle-fronted box with disc on the front like 13 black and rear 259 style Disc
Weapons: A front mounted Horizontal spinning disc and a rear mounted vertical spinning disc, both running at 4500rpm and delivering a blow of 45kj
Top Speed: 13 mph
Transmission: 4 Rubbertex coated aluminium wheels (Rubbertex is a grippy rubber substance used on the K*bot tables) run on a Smidsy type wheel system, and run by a pair of Bosch 400€™s and a bank of Ni-cads to give me more weight for armour
Armour: 12mm HDPE
GC: 3mm either side and back, 7mm under the disc at the front, variable at the sides of the disc
Srimech: powerful electric arms mounted on the top
Turning Circle: 0cm
Strengths: devastating weapons
Weakness: Other spinners
Notes: will NEVER turn the vertical flywheel into an opponent as it will throw SH over. Also, counter-acting discs (vertical and horizontal) will keep it stable, and if it is flipped, it does a funny jig in the air before coming down, most of the time, right way up

Name: Flipping Hell
Dimensions: 120cm x 80cm x 40cm
Weight: 100kg
Shape: steep wedge front, elongated wedged tail (not used as a weapon)
Weapon: 50 Bar 2 pivot pneumatic flipper, 100mm bore, 180mm stroke ram powered by CO2, which generates a force to throw a 100kg robot 20ft up and 15ft across. The mechanism is a 4 bar flipper, but the rear arms sit much lower in the robot than those of Storm 2 and Biohazard. I will try and get a picture.
Top speed: 15mph
Transmission: just like Razer€™s
GC: 0 at the front, 2mm down the side, 4mm at the back end
Turning Circle: 0cm
Armour: 6mm aluminium and steel alloy
Strengths: Can win with one weapon shot
Weakness: Limited Gas supply, 2 stage self right
Notes: 4 wheels, the rear two of which are Razer type, so the flipper is always facing its opponent.

The self righter: Look for a video on YouTube of Biohazard fighting Vlad in early RW, and yu will see what I mean by 2 stage self righting, but FH does it considerably quicker.

MW:
Hell Fire

Weight: 50kg
Dimensions: 120x110x40cm
Shape: low slung wedge
Weapons: Powerful pneumatic flipping arm that has a 3.2mm Hardox plate that runs the width of the front, that can throw 75kg 3 feet or so no problem, and CAN flip 100kg, but not too high, and a rear Pussycat style Saw, that spins at 4000rpm, and has carbon tipped teeth to cope with titanium.
Top Speed: 25mph
Transmission: a pair of Mag C40€™s on 24v NiMH€™s running through a really simple transmission, but a reliable one due to features to keep the chain on.
Amour: 4mm Ali and steel alloy and 2 mm of stainless steel on top
Strengths: Very manoeuvrable and fast, generally very easy to control
Weakness: Exposed outer wheels
Ground Clearance: 0 at the front, 5cm at the back, varying from 0 to 4.5 at the sides (wedge goes up)
Turning Circle: 0cm (its turning is very nimble)
Notes: Hell Fire is extremely manoeuvrable because it has 2 sets of wheels on the same axle, meaning that it€™s incredibly stable, and can turn on a penny, and can still run even with outer wheels ripped off

LW:
Name: Hell Hound
Weight: 25kg
Dimensions (LxWxH): 60x50x30cm
Shape: scooped front, rectangular body, rounded back
Weapons: 2 conjoined Pincer type crushing jaws with a small hydraulic ram powering each, producing a 1 and 1/2 tonne crushing force
Colour: mainly black, but with Rotweiler features all over the body
Speed: 15MPH
Transmission: a pair of Bosch 400€™s on 24v running through a simple 6:1 ratio gearbox
Armour:1mm stainless steel and 4mm Ali/steel alloy (tough enough for LWs)
Srimech: cable pulled legs from out the side (like a dog cocking his leg to do his business) and a cable pulled tail to self right when its on its head
GC: 0 at the scoop, 2mm the rest of the way
Turning circle: 0cm
Strengths: Power of weapon
Weakness: slow self righter (still effective mind)
Notes: NBSFL LW champ

FW:
Name: Hells Angel
Weight: 12kg
Dimensions: 59 x 45 x 15 cm
Shape: Scoop front, rectangle body, wedged rear end
Weapons: A CO2 powered pneumatic axe run off two rotation air motors, run at 120PSI
Transmission:2x 18v Team Whyachi TWR18 motors on 24v, running Team Whyachi grippy rubber tyres for a metal floor, Robochallenge classic blue wheels for wooden floors. Both are 75mm diameter
Speed: 12 MPH
GC: 0 at the wedge point, 2mm at the front side varying to 11mm at the rear
Srimech: The axe, the weight of which pulls it over so it cannot rest on its side. Make SURE you remember that.
Armour: 10mm HDPE (sides and back), 3mm Steel (scoop, lid)
Strengths: The axe
Weakness: the armour may not stand up to strong FW spinners, but should prove good enough

AW: Stewie
Weight: 150g
Dimensions (LWH): 12 x 10 x 3cm
Shape: curved wedge with flipper atop
Weapons: HPXF servo powered flipper, run on 7.4v (Li-po), the flipper blade is 1mm Ti
Transmission: 2 x Presision Micro-drives 50:1 gear motors, 1.5cm wheels
Speed: 2MPH
GC: 4mm at the back down to 1mm at the front, and the flipper runs along the floor
Srimech: The Flipper
Armour: 1mm Polcarbonate lid, 6mm Polycarb sides and 4mm base, with Ti on the weapon
Strengths: High speed and manuverability
Weakness: A little too quick sometimes


Music:
Hell Machine - Duality - Slipknot
Sheer Hell - Faint - Linkin Park
Flipping Hell - Wait and Bleed - Slipknot
Flaming Hell - Head Kicked in tonight - The Rezillos
Grim Reaper - The Undertakers theme tune - WWE
The Saint - The Saint program theme tune
St Hammer - St Anger - Metallica
Weird Alice - Poison - Alice Cooper

[razerdave]

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And Paul, from a neutral point of veiw, something about your robot. You say 4 lem motors, yes ? and its for skid steer ?

I would advise looking into Storm 2. He requires only 2 Lem motors to power 6 wheels and it too is a skid steer robot, but can also spin on the spot due to the middle wheels being slightly bigger (only a few mm or so)

[andrewj]

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Due to popular demand, here is...

The Fighting Vapourbot Association League Line-Ups!

-2>(remaining entries will be sorted into the draw at a later date)

Heat A

Do or Die vs. Salamander III vs. Axe to Fall vs. Grim Reaper
Wedge Devolution vs. ??? vs. Death Threat 0.2 vs. Topsy Turvy

Heat B

Catus Catus 8.1 vs. Ge5orce vs. Bloody Mary vs. Killotine: EVO
Weapon Synergy vs. Secret vs. Die-Ceratops Re-Invertus vs. MeCannibal 3.0

Heat C

Disco 5 vs. SOR X vs. Cyclone Force 3 vs. The Botles Reunited
The May Tracks Has You vs. Nidhogg vs. Blue Sparks vs. Requiem

Heat D

Leprosy Infection vs. The Quaestor III vs. Turbo Tails vs. Apocalypse
Wedginator Devilution vs. Masamune vs. Baldur vs. *69

Heat E

Gabriel III vs. Hatchet: EVO vs. ??? vs. Champagne
ISDSFA vs. Slammer VI vs. Dolce vs. Axes of Evil

Heat F

Gulp vs. Achilles vs. The 6isc vs. Sithis
The Zodiac vs. ??? vs. Sheer Heart Attack 2 vs. Panicking Still?

Heat G

Systematic Shocker vs. Sheer Hell vs. DreamCatcher vs. Dreadnaught
Tri-Tainium vs. Tengu VII vs. The Deer vs. All Scoop and No Stab

Heat H

St. Hammer vs. Crimson Thunder vs. Eye of Ran vs. PsycloniZer
Intriguer vs. Hot Sauce vs. Spring-BOK! vs. Under Pressure

Heat I

Lethal Execution vs. Namie€™s Style vs. Flaming Hell vs. Rammy Mk 3
Super Gore Revo vs. Knyfe vs. ??? vs. Black Panther

Heat J

Cat With Wheels vs. The Rock vs. Dervish: Generation X vs. Flick of the Wrist
Monolith vs. ??? vs. Spin Dash Unleashed vs. Brutalis 2.0

Heat K

DVD: The Sequel vs. Wedga€™s Revenge vs. ??? vs. Juiced Oil
Supreme vs. The Saint vs. Life & Death vs. E Clawdius Unum

Heat L

Heyght vs. With or Without You vs. Macduff the 3rd vs. Tempest Evil-est-oution
Weird Alice vs. Noo Monsoon vs. Leviathan vs. ???

Heat M

Another Night At The Bar vs. Sakura vs. Killobite 5.0 vs. Exertion
Mega Masher 2 vs. No Exceptions vs. Visioned vs. LockJaw Epidemic

Heat N

Seung Mina IV vs. Door Stops vs. Obliteration vs. Back to Rock III
Rupture vs. ??? vs. WORCK-ER vs. Flipping Hell

Heat O

??? vs. Axe-O-Lotl vs. Liar 2 vs. Axeon 3.0
Nitro-Gene 4.0 vs. Dante vs. vs. Phoenix Down vs. Disco Boogie

Heat P

Orka MK 4 vs. ArchAngel of the Abyss vs. Hell Machine vs. Forklift 2
Tira IV vs. Pure Evil: Back To Basics vs. Whirligig 4.5 vs. Extravagant

Tactics? Predictions? Comments? You know the drill...

[kodster]

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Alex McW (or Matty, depending on who gets in first, but it seems unlikely that Matty will :P) needs his bots in, and we are missing Franks last entrant, but other than that, this looks to be quite good!

Now, the arena...

The FVA Arena

Its just like your average arena...except...everything. We have...

- a 25 x 20 m rectangular space for your bots to move around in
- a pit near the upper-right corner
- a flame pit across from it near the bottom-right corner
- one pair of kill saws in the upper-left corner, and another in between the flame pit and regular pit
- a pit release button to the right of the lower-left corner
- Four CPZs for our house robots, including good old Refbot
- Four floor flippers in the CPZs (will come into play when the house robots are not on them)
- When half the match (150 minutes) has gone by, the middle of the floor will open up, which reveals a 1.5m diameter chrome-dome that rises up above the ground and acts as a huge hazard for the rest of the match, with 4 giant serrated chrome-plated Hardox blades. This monstrous hazard is called The Death Egg (credit to Steve ).
- the Discs of Death from the Battlegrounds arena, one on the middle of each wall like the angle grinders of RW
- 50cm high 30mm Hardox walls and a 30mm Steel floor. No wooden floors :P

No CAD, though, sorry. (If you REALLY want one, that can be arranged :P)

As for the line-ups, they look great, AJ! Ill have a go at predicting next post.