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There is no rule against it. It means that the weapon itself will be just as powerfull as the real deal, if the robot frame or armour can take the load that is.
However, I would advise on making up your own specifications, and base them on existing robot weapons. For instance, Gravity 3 (the one in series 7) has a 100mm x 180mm ram. you could make yours 120mm x 180mm, that makes it more powerfull (5.5 tonnes as opposed to 4 tonnes) without too much of the downside (weight).
You could do the same on all kinds of vapourbots. Since vapours do not keep account of things real robots must take into account (metal fatigue, reliability, survivability, ease of maintenance) vapoursbots can get away with a lot more than real robots can. So real robots tend to keep the powers more in check a bit.
I think I€™m going to try a SHW Clusterbot:
Name: S.U.C.K.E.R P.U.N.C.H
Part 1
Name: S.U.C.K.E.R (Strange Underdog Can Kill Everything Robotic)
Shape: Box
Colour: Lime
Speed: 15MPH
Weight: 80KG
Armour: 6MM Hardox
Chassis: 3MM steel box section
Drive: 2 LEM130s @ 36V
Power: 4 NiCad Battlepacks @ 36V
Locomotion: 2 Titanium tracks with a urethane-rubber coating
Ground clearance: 1MM
Dimensions in CM: (LxWxH) 45x70x20
Weaponry: 2 5KG Spinning disks from the robot Dragonstrike each powered by an LEM200, attached to the robot by A-frames made from 4MM steel box section, each A-frame has a caster on each side at the point
Srimech: Invertible
Strengths: Powerful weaponry, Strong tracks
Weaknesses: Quite light, High ground clearance, Tracks are open to axes and crushers
Picture: Up soon
Part 2
Name: P.U.N.C.H ( Powerful Underestimated newbie causes havoc
Shape: Box
Colour: Light Orange
Speed: 15MPH
Weight: 80KG
Armour: 6MM Hardox
Chassis: 3MM steel box section
Drive: 2 LEM130s @ 36V
Power: 4 NiCad Battlepacks @ 36V
Locomotion: 2 Titanium tracks with a urethane-rubber coating
Ground clearance: 1MM
Dimensions in CM: (LxWxH) 45x70x20
Weaponry: 2 5KG Spinning disks from the robot Carnage each powered by an LEM200, attached to the robot by A-frames made from 4MM steel box section, each A-frame has a caster on each side at the point
Srimech: Invertible
Strengths: Powerful weaponry, Strong tracks
Weaknesses: Quite light, High ground clearance, Tracks are open to axes and crushers
Picture: Up soon
They are linked by a cable designed to snap when they pull in opposite directions
A few problems here, actually more than a few...firstly the weight of both is 80kg. If theyre a clusterbot, that means the total weight is 160kgs, which is a little bit overweight
Secondly, you really dont need to steal the exact discs from real robots, just saying a spinning disc is the weapon will do. Because its from a real robot wont make it any more effective or better...besides, Im pretty sure neither Carnage or Dragonstrikes discs are 5kg in weight
Thirdly, you dont need to state a chassis unless its really needed - like if youre Aaron and youre explaining how your robot can survive its own hits :P Also, with a steel chassis, 6mm hardox armour, at least 30kg in motors each and tracks, they would be considerably overweight at 100kg, and at 80kg...well...you get the point.
Theres smaller problems as well, like how is 1mm a high ground clearance? If theyre tracks, technically the clearance is zero...also, 4 NiCad packs will not power tracks on LEMs for five minutes, even without the weapon.
I also like to note there is a (retired) vapour called Suckerpunch already. This is turning into a strange habbit you have Ben, nearly every name you come up with has been taken (kinda).
Meh, since this is an acronym Id say its not THAT much of a problem...
Could someone have a look at the last 3 editions to my vapour team please?
Robot Name: Forza
Shape: A cone (like Typhoon 2), but with the top 15cm cut off
Weight: 110kg
Length: 85cm
Width: 85cm
Height: 35cm
Motivation: 2 x internal titanium vulcanised tracks
Power: 2 x S28-400 mags at 24v, 9HP
Armour: The whole shell is 4mm hardox, and the base is 7mm HDPE
Weaponry:
1) This robot is an FBS, but the top doesn€™t spin (where the point is cut-off). The rest of the 48kg shell spins up to a maximum 4000rpm via 2 LEM-130s at 36v, when at maximum rpm it can deliver a 200Kj hit, but it would self-destruct so it is kept down to about 2400rpm, where it can deal out 125Kj. The shell is covered in 15 hooked blades, each made entirely of tungsten and weighing in at 1kg each, they are all welded as part of the shell rather than surgically attached to stop them coming off, also there is plenty of shock proofing to protect from this weapon
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 8mm
Turning Circle: 0
Srimech: There is a linear actuated bar on the top of the robot, the part that doesn€™t spin
Colour: The shell is painted all the colours of the rainbow in sickeningly bright and vibrant paint, and all the blades are sparkling gold, so that when the robot spins it looks very beautiful (and might make the opposition drivers throw up)
Strengths: Very powerful weaponry
Weaknesses: High ground clearance
Robot Name: Pi
Shape: Box with a small wedge at the front, but this is not visible under the discs
Weight: 100kg
Length: 65cm
Width: 75cm
Height: 15cm
Motivation: 2 x internal invertible CNC Aluminium wheels with vulcanised tyres
Power: 2 x S28-400s at 24v
Armour: 4mm hardox all over, 5mm titanium skirts
Weaponry:
1) Twin 15kg each discs at the front of the robot, each powered by an S28-400 at 24v and providing 25Kj each, spinning inwards towards each other and a combined 50Kj hit, each is made of hardox and has two Hypno-Disc style tungsten teeth with serrated edges, welded on as part of the discs to stop them being ripped off
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 0 at the front due to low 1cm titanium wedge under the discs, effectively 0 at sides and rear due to hinged skirts that flop over if the robot is inverted
Turning Circle: 0
Srimech: Invertible
Colour: Black bodywork with an evil eye on each disc
Strengths: Double weaponry
Weaknesses: Not extremely powerful by vapour standards, in weaponry and in drive
Robot Name: Hercules
Shape: Reverse wedge
Weight: 110kg
Length: 80cm
Width: 90cm
Height: 40cm at top of wedge, sloping down to 20cm
Motivation: 2 x front internal Drill-Zilla style shuffling feet
Power: 2 x S28-400s at 24v
Armour: 8mm titanium on sides and rear, 4mm titanium on top, 4mm hardox front and wedges
Weaponry:
1) The main weapon is the front, vertical hardox disc, drilled with speed holes and weighing in at 35kg and spun by a LEM-200 at 48v, it has two tungsten teeth, curved to rip with serrated edges they are welded on as part of the disc to stop them coming off easily, the disc spin upwards to flip as well as rip and deals out 86Kj per hit to cause some serious damage, the disc is not higher than the front of the robot so when flipped it won€™t hit the floor
2) The front wedges are either side of the disc to allow the blades to come through the middle and strike opponents
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 0 at front due to wedges, 8mm at sides and rear
Turning Circle: 0
Srimech: On the top of the robot there is a linear actuated arm
Colour: Bright green with red dashes
Strengths: Powerful weaponry
Weaknesses: Ground Clearance at sides and rear
I dont think two Hawkers will provide the energy you need either, although youd have to ask Leo about that. Id go for something like 6 NiCad packs or an engine to drive the weapons, which would let you get away with less batteries. And it gets an extra 10kg, yes, but theres still 50 other kilograms that are unaccounted for
A 5kg disc is also slightly pitiful in terms of inertia and damage compared to the weapons most spinner vapours use, which are in the region of 15-25kgs. May I ask why you want discs that are exactly like the ones on those robots anyway?
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