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[majinb]

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a warm welcome to this place Joey, I shall take a look at your robots later

good havin you here, have fun

[kodster]

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WOW! Another newcomer! And some promising vapourbots too!

Welcome to the forum, Joey!

[joey_picus]

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I cant make any guarantees, but I shall try to :wink:

EDIT: And thanks for that Kody.

(Message edited by joeychevron on February 20, 200

[majinb]

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ok Joey, here we go!

Gabriel
WEIGHT: 100kgs
DIMENSIONS: 100 x 50 x 35 cm
SHAPE: Elongated triangular pyramid with steep rear and very shallow front
COLOUR: Black with yellow and black chevron highlights on the joins and around the weapons.
DRIVE: 2 S28-400 Magmotors driving 2 wheels running off 4 NiCd packs at 24v
SPEED: 14mph average, 20mph max
GROUND CLEARANCE: 0 at front due to spring hinged nose, rising to 7mm at rear
ARMOUR: 3mm aluminium baseplate, 5mm titanium armour on rest of body (5mm hardox in critical areas and edges).
WEAPONS: A low pressure pneumatic front hinged flipper, consisting of the front edge of the body, running from 2 2kg CO2 tanks and a hydraulic ram (similar to Gravedigger in S3). The flipper cant really flip 100kgs very well, but it doesnt need to as the design means anything caught by the flipper will be rolled over to one side.
SRIMECH: Via weapon.
NOTES: Components shock mounted for protection vs. spinners and impacts
STRENGTHS: Difficult to get a grip on due to the shape
WEAKNESSES: Has no real way of damaging its opponents

S28-400s, underpowered flipper and medium armour? This bot is seriously UNDERweight .
Also, the weapon, you mention a pnuematic flipper powered by hydraulics? Something is either pnuematic or hydraulic (Id go pnuematic here). Also, if the weapon cant flip 100 kg, hows it gonna self-right you? Go for a more powerful weapon to begin with.

Fire And Ice
WEIGHT: 110kgs
DIMENSIONS: 75 x 55 x 22 cm
SHAPE: Parallelogram wedge
COLOUR: Flame red and yellow at front, icy blue and green at back.
DRIVE: 4 LEM130 motors running off NiCd packs at 36hp driving steel-reinforced rubber tracks.
SPEED: 16mph average, 25mph max (rarely used as it is difficult/impossible to turn at this speed)
GROUND CLEARANCE: 10mm at sides, plating extending below both wedges giving 1mm clearance on whichever side is down (if that makes sense...), 23cm at rear.
ARMOUR: Sides are 5mm hardox, front and rear are 10mm hardox, with the top and underside being 4mm titanium.
WEAPONS: Mainly relies on speed and ramming power, but also has two 20cm diameter diamond edged sawblades, one in the centre of each wedge (a la Angel Of Death from S2) powered by S28-150 Magmotors to around 3500rpm. The saws spin upwards to have some lifting effect as well.
SRIMECH: None, but runs inverted. Has spike strips on the sides to prevent stranding.
NOTES: Armour and components shock mounted to reduce impact from all things large and spinny.
STRENGTHS: Good speed and power, good against spinners
WEAKNESSES: Tracks vulnerable to axes

I believe the shape can better be described as invertible box with wedge at the front and an inverted wedge at the back, I know I hade some difficulties understanding it. VERY good rambot concept. you should make the ground clearance underneath the wedge 0 mm, otherwise theres no way youll ever beat a skirted robot. Guess this robot would be about 110 kg, but if someone says it needs to lose weight, perhaps you can power the saws by 1 MAG instead of 2.

Nidhogg
WEIGHT: 100kgs
DIMENSIONS: 95 x 55 x 37 (47 inc weapon) cm
SHAPE: Elongated triangular pyramid with steep rear and very shallow front, with a flat bit on the front edge and 2 cutouts in each side panel for eyes
COLOUR: Dark green and brownish roughly chevron patterning, fading to blood red towards the front. Weapons are gold coloured with flame red spines on the arm.
DRIVE: 2 Leeson M1120046 motors run at 24v from 4 NiCd packs driving 2 wheels, with a ball caster just behind the forks in the nose
SPEED: 14mph average, 20mph max
GROUND CLEARANCE: 0 at front due to forks, rising to 10mm at rear
ARMOUR: 4mm Hardox (7mm in key areas) on front, side and rear panels, 3mm aluminium baseplate
WEAPONS: Hydraulic crushing arm (constructed of hardened steel and aluminium alloy) at front driven from a LEM130 pump at 3000psi, giving 9 tonnes of force at the ram and 4.5 tonnes of force at the tip. Also has Haardvark-style lifting forks at the very front run from an S28-150 Magmotor and a lead screw capable of lifting 200kgs.
SRIMECH: Via the weapon, which has decorative spines to assist in self righting. Spikes at the rear prevent the robot getting stranded.
NOTES: Components and armour shock mounted for protection against large scary spinny things. Eyes in side of robot serve as targeting lasers (they dont actually target, they just look really cool)
STRENGTHS: Can cause a lot of damage
WEAKNESSES: Slow at self righting
Complicated weapon system, I cant really say how heavy this is, possibly about 100 kg.


147
WEIGHT: 100kgs
DIMENSIONS: 105 x 60 x 40 cm
SHAPE: Wedge with flat back
COLOUR: Green on the front (thanks to the felt) with brown wood-effect sides and rear
DRIVE: 2 S28-150 Magmotors running from 4 NiCd packs at 24v driving 2 wheels
SPEED: 15mph average, 20mph max
GROUND CLEARANCE: 0 all around due to a hinged plate on the flipper and side and rear skirts, 10mm underneath
ARMOUR: 7mm Hardox on front (covered in 2mm green felt stolen...uh..borrowed from actual snooker tables), 4mm Hardox at sides and rear (covered in 1mm fiberglass made to resemble wood), 3mm aluminium baseplate and under flipper to deter inquisitive pointy nasty spiky things.
WEAPONS: High pressure pneumatic rear hinged flipper, consisting of the entire front plate of the robot, running from 2 rams and 2 2kg CO2 tanks, giving about 20 flips per fight. Also has a 50cm long steel pneumatic ram at the rear, running from 1 2kg CO2 tank at low pressure, painted to resemble a snooker cue (complete with chalking) which can punch through thin (2mm) titanium but is primarily there to right the robot if it becomes stranded.
SRIMECH: Via weapons. Sides have fibreglass moulding and spikes to prevent stranding.
NOTES: Has several snooker balls (1 cue ball, 4 reds, 1 yellow, 1 blue and 1 black if anyones interested) screwed to the top part of the flipper that not only look good but prevent opponents driving off/over the top. Internal components are shock mounted to reduce damage.
STRENGTHS: Powerful flipper
WEAKNESSES: Flammable (oh yes...), no real damaging weaponry

Spot on I guess }

[alex_holt]

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Welcome Joey, I must say that before I even read into the bots themselves you write very nice comprehensive stats.

Heres a question Ive been considering, if I was to have a nice 10cm + thick block of a dense wood (say oak, teak or similar) mounted and bracketed against a hardox back plate, how resistant would it be to high powered weapons, and more importantly, how likely would it be to get weapons lodged in it?

My thinking is that particularly ontop against crushers and axes it could work quite well as logn as it is supported to a poitn where it cant sheer or splinter.

[paulc]

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Heck! Well done Joey! Those are very nice stats - It took me several months before I got my stats sorted out, but you did it almost instantly! And welcome to the forum

[bartmanhomer]

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I make it 100KG. the bar is 2000 millmeters. 8x8x8 is length times width times height. The bar have 8 teeth on the both sides of the bar. The bar is power by a linear actutaor.

[joey_picus]

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Thanks for the welcomes guys

Regarding Gabriel, I might give it a complete overhaul because Im realising I may have underestimated how much it is possible to cram into one of these things...Ill post some revisions later.

And if I add a hinged bit and make F&Is ground clearance zero, should I be set?

[majinb]

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Joey; It doesnt HAVE to be hinged I think

Andre; if the length is 8, the width is 8 and the height is 8, than what is 2000?

Also, do you know the difference between a bar and a disc? Bars usually dont have more than 2 teeth

[joey_picus]

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Doesnt it? I though hinged plates were easier to get under other robots with...

And Ive made a few changes to Gabriel, which has made an unnatural mutation from an underpowered flipper to an unrealistic axe:

Gabriel
WEIGHT: 100kgs
DIMENSIONS: 100 x 50 x 35 cm
SHAPE: Elongated triangular pyramid with steep rear and very shallow front
COLOUR: Black with yellow and black chevron highlights on the joins and around the weapons.
DRIVE: 2 S28-400 Magmotors driving 2 wheels running off 6 NiCd packs at 36v
SPEED: 14mph average, 20mph max
GROUND CLEARANCE: 0 at front due to spring hinged nose, rising to 7mm at rear
ARMOUR: 3mm aluminium baseplate, 7mm titanium armour on rest of body (7mm hardox in critical areas and edges).
WEAPONS: An electrically powered axe, running off a C40-300 Magmotor and a Mortis-style linkage. The axe is 90cm long, weighs 9kgs and has a tungsten tipped head shaped like Excaliburs in series 3, capable of penetrating 5mm titanium and denting hardox.
SRIMECH: Has electric linear actuator powered Steel Avenger type arms (only located within the robot) on either side near the back for righting, while spikes at the rear prevent it being stranded on its back.
NOTES: Components shock mounted for protection vs. spinners and impacts
STRENGTHS: Difficult to get a grip on due to the shape, weapon could be effective
WEAKNESSES: Slow to self right, so-so armour

EDIT: Added actuators for self righters

(Message edited by joeychevron on February 21, 200

[leorcc]

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Martijn, robots in the real world use hydraulic rams for Full pressure pnumatic use, since pnumatic of the shelve rams are not capable of 1000psi operation. Therefore Joeys use of a hydraulic ram is not wrong.

[majinb]

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of course, the use of a hydraulic RAM does not indicate the use of a hydraulic system, youre right Leo

and for that, you are right too Joey, Gabriels initial weapon is possible

[paulc]

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Well, I think that Joey should go for the new version of Gabriel as there arent THAT many axe robots about, so he should bring in a new axing bot into the FanFic world.

[joey_picus]

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Is there a very good reson why the new one wouldnt work? Ive noticed the dearth of axebots too...

[majinb]

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Paul; you are right when you say there are less axes then there are spinners, flippers or rammers, but fact is, the original Gabriel was a FRONT hinged flipper, and those are even scarcer than axes are

Joey; not sure if the Mags will survive 36V, other than that, youre doing a real good job

the quality of your vapours surprises me, it makes me think you put a lot of research, not only in robotics, but also in VAPOURrobotics, the sole fact you made your tracked machine 110 kg rather than 100 indicates that youre very well aware of what were doing here