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  • Re: Graupner motors

    ok thanks Gary.
    i am sticking to cordless drills deffinatley.
    i broke a gearbox an a dewalt, my dad was ok though, it.didn't work.
    i am really really really sorry for not.listening and i wish i could start off fresh (so people aren't angry because robots is one of my favourite things in the whole world.)
    i suppose i.should start simple then get experience and make some more friends
    i.will start my build in about 1 month and will Check through some older topics for info and tips
    just now, should i buy that speedo from gripper and corkscrew?
    seems worth it.
    thanks guys and Gary for answering my question.

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      That speedo that Jonno is selling that came from Corkscrew is a Heavyweight speed controller. Its FAR too heavy for a FW and majorly overkill unless you are running something daft. Only FW I know that ran a HW speed controller was Trojan, and he was running these 2 massive 200W scooter motors, and even so, it was overkill.

      If all your running is drill motors, a Scorpion XXL will suit the needs fine. It takes up to 24v so you'd be fine with it.

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        Originally posted by archie2000
        because robots is one of my favourite things in the whole world.
        women?
        i wouln't with that just bother for drills. 2 electronize 15a will do you fine, simple and rugged

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          One of his favourite things, not nessesarily his most favourite thing

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            you are allowed more than one hobby :wink:

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              Originally posted by harry hills
              Originally posted by archie2000
              because robots is one of my favourite things in the whole world.
              women?
              It's usually a case of either/or.
              You want to play robots? Then write off your chances of getting a woman.
              You want a woman? Then write off your chances of playing robots.

              Unless you find a woman that's tolerant of robots, in which case kudos :P


              Archie, another possible problem with hammer drills that I found when messing about with some, is that the shaft is free to come out of the gearbox. With standard cordless drills, the shaft is fixed in place and only protrudes about 25mm-30mm out the end of the gearbox. With cordless hammer drills, the shaft can be around 50mm-60mm long. This means that if you use, say, Robo Challenge wheels with nut inserts, your wheels will stick very far out and the shaft could be more prone to bending from impacts when your robot is thrown around and lands on its wheels.
              And because the shaft is usually free to come out of the gearbox, you'd have to come up with some sort of restraint to basically stop your wheels from falling off.

              By all means feel free to experiment with hammer drills at some stage, but if you're wanting to keep some money aside for your next, more powerful robot, it's best not to spend money on hammer drills then have to spend more money on normal cordless drills when you realise that it's too much hassle to make the hammer drills work properly as drive motors.

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                I think if you called the missus a hobby she would be quite upset Alex

                Originally posted by k_c_r
                It's usually a case of either/or.
                You want to play robots? Then write off your chances of getting a woman.
                You want a women? Then write off your chances of playing robots.
                We could always try promoting our robot demos as Hen Night parties Jamie?

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                  Originally posted by psycho_fling
                  you are allowed more than one hobby :wink:
                  Trust me, you don't

                  You always end up wanting too do both, but cant do both the way you wish, cash just runs out

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                  • Re: Graupner motors

                    ok thanks guys (what for, Jamie and dave are the only ones who have said anything useful:P)
                    but you are welcome to post anything here anyway
                    satanix runs of a scorpion xxl dosent it Dave,.if so that is some mod you had done to -does it make it do more amps?
                    oh yeah Harry.
                    girls and women. ha not with my attitude.

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                      Archie:
                      You're welcome
                      Also, the original Satanix ran a Scorpion XXL, that was running 18v drill motors on 18v. When I built the new one, it couldn't handle the power because I had issues with the drive units at the time. I use Victor 883's now and have never had a problem since.

                      Just some food for thought Archie:
                      I worked it out the other day how much Satanix 1.666 would cost from brand new. I came to the total of £563. This includes:

                      Drive units; Motors, gears, wheels and gearbox assembly
                      Chassis (material and local welder)
                      Batteries (Lipo in my case)
                      Speed controllers (2 x Victor 883's)
                      Misc. Radio electronics (RX, mixer, gyro and gyro switcher)
                      Transmitter

                      Probably add about £20 onto that for misc. bolts, wire, connectors.

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                        @ Tony ill rephrase ....you are allowed more than one thing in your life that makes you happy, enriches your life and provides great enjoyment ....hope that's made things clearer lol

                        Anyway back to the robots

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                          Yeah, if you're ever showing her things you say on the forum then that one would definitely be a better choice than the last

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                            Originally posted by Anttazz
                            Originally posted by k_c_r
                            It's usually a case of either/or.
                            You want to play robots? Then write off your chances of getting a woman.
                            You want a women? Then write off your chances of playing robots.
                            We could always try promoting our robot demos as Hen Night parties Jamie?
                            I'd rather promote myself at such events

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                              £563!!!
                              that's nearly all my money.
                              well it probarbly won't be as good as satanix.
                              my budget is £300ish for a good robot.
                              how about a r
                              eally powerful crusher like i heard hard-time (think his names Ben) say a brushless actuator.
                              cheaper than drill motors and electronize.
                              i won't do Pneumatics, its too hard.
                              because one of the Swedish roboteers said a drill.motor cut through 10mm polycarb
                              sounds impressive but it must be some drill

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                              • Re: Graupner motors

                                tip: nothing on your robot should be brushless

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