Hobbyweights anyone?

[ewan]

Hobbyweights anyone?

I have to agree with Ed n Geoff really... if there are too many weight classes, itll not only dilute the number of robots in each class, but it will confuse the lot of us...
Imagine RW showing 4-5 weight classes in a show, Itd just confuse the viewers...

There is a limit on the weight classes that are visually exciting to watch. I personally think featherweights are the mimimum weight that viewers will take an intrest to (with anything below feather being much less visually exciting).

If we all end up having more robot it would cost us more money... And the quality of our robots could be diluted as we spend less time on each one... (remember, time x money = robot).

Cheers, Ewan

[team_ireland]

Hobbyweights anyone?

I agree these 5-6kg bots might not be a crowd pleaser but that does not nessassarly (spelling)mean that we cannot run them. I am sure that at sometime during the day (before the first show, lunch time, after the show) there will be a time when the arena is free and we could use it.

Regards
Ian

[stu]

Hobbyweights anyone?

Normal lunch time means lunch time. You dont know how hard it is to run an event, then lunch time comes, you just want to sit down and not worry about the arena. Someone needs to be at the arena at all times, they do need a lunch break Ian. Just build your 5-6kg robot and stop complaining. We cant stop you, nor would anyone try, stop making a big thing of it.

Mr Stu

[james...venom]

Hobbyweights anyone?

Rc Wars runs regular roboteer social events where people come along and socialise with other builders. they bring there featherweights along to have a few battles.

if there are a few 5/6kg machines then il organise somthing and set up the Rc Wars arena for you to play in. if it gets big enough we could hold some sort of championship?

[team_ireland]

Hobbyweights anyone?

Stu i am currently building the bot and I am not trying to make a big thing of it. I am not going to get into an arguement about it. I will be bringing it to newark regardless of whether i can run it or not.

Regards
Ian

[stu]

Hobbyweights anyone?

LOL ok Ian, chill chill chill. LOL.

Mr Stu

[ewan]

Hobbyweights anyone?

mmm...
One of the reasons America can afford to have so many bloody weight classes is there are so many people building over the pond... Just see this: a Database of US bot builders: http://www.buildersdb.com/search_robots.asp?BotName=&x=16&y=0&TeamName=&Clas sID=&City=&State=http://www.buildersdb.com/search_rob...Name=&ClassID= &City=&State= (and thats not all of em)
Cheers, Ewan

[jamesb]

Hobbyweights anyone?

I think that anyone thinking of building a 6kg robot, just go ahead and do it. I have read and understood all of the points put across above, and my opinion is, featherweights are expensive.

Though Ed rightly says that further diluting the weight classes is bad, how many roboteers will abandon their feathers or heavies to build weeny-weights? (since hobbyweight is dodgey)

Also, how many potential roboteers have looked at feathers and thought... man, my rc car isnt powerful enough for that class

In short, if you build them we will come..... with our arena, and as there is likely to be a heavyweight event every 5 minutes the way things are going, this may be the best chance feather and weenyweights will have of actually fighting without worrying about heavies nicking their place in the arena.

As weve said, weve done it for years, join us if you wish, officially recognized or not.

[grant_ploughbot]

Hobbyweights anyone?

AAAAARRRGGGHHHH. Just stop all this shite about its not entertaining for the public to watch and it will dilute the other classes
If you want to build one build one, i have and still will, i still run my feather as often as i can, no one has noticed me dropping a feather for my 6kg bots have they. NO....
Who cares what the public think about small weight classes, I dont and if thats all you lot think about then thats your tuff shit, because building and fighting robots is my hobby, and its what i enjoy, and if all you care about is who will find it interesting to watch i think your in the wrong business.
I think you will all agree that the fun in building robots is to see them evolve and to see what is cabable with limited weights, respurces etc....
Anyone wishing to build 6kg robots or already have built them, contact Rc Wars and we will gladly sort you out, if its no official weoght class what does it matter? We can still have rules and regulations, competitions etc. and still have fun doing it.

thanks, Grant

[storm]

Hobbyweights anyone?

Ahhhh........

Who cares what the public think about small weight classes, I dont and if thats all you lot think about then thats your tuff shit, because building and fighting robots is my hobby, and its what i enjoy, and if all you care about is who will find it interesting to watch i think your in the wrong business

As ever, a reasoned argument from one of the Coopers.

This is a public forum Grant, our fans come here (yes, theyre the public) and read this. Do you want to tell them you dont believe we should care if they find what we do interesting and that if we do were in the wrong business ?

Who cares what the public think ?... Well Ill stick my hand in the air and say I do. Theyre the lifeblood of what we do, as any spectator based sport is. If you dont need to care about what they want or alienate them with attitudes that you dont give a sh*t about them, and you can kiss this sport goodbye :sad:

Ed
http://www.teamstorm.com

[blazerbotics]

Hobbyweights anyone?

Robots need the public, they pay for the events to be put on. Without live events around the country what are we supposed to do with our robots, drive them around the garden? Recently weve seen alot more featherweight fights been included into events, and alot of the time these arent entertaining enough.

I have no problem with people building 6kg bots, if alot appear i may make one. But at the moment i dont have time, why do i have so many robots to look after?

[grant_ploughbot]

Hobbyweights anyone?

I didnt mean it to sound quite so nieve, but you seem to think the public dominate robot combat, and thats not true, we do, the roboteers.
And obviously the public do matter, but its what we want. If we want to start an official 6kg weight class then the public shudnt be able to stop us. 6kg weight classes will be simple to build, anyone could from a remote control car, and so wouldnt that be an extra for the public, to know they can build a competative robot chaeply?
And Ed, you seem to thing its us Coopers making a huge fuss over things, its not, we want just what Ian and many others want, a new class at low prices, and its a good way of testing out new feather designs without spending much money.
thats exactly what we want to be able to do without people like you complaining that the public dont want us to, Im sory if its not just want you want, if you dont want one dont build one! What is the point in having robot vcombat dominated by the veiwers? Yes Some people might earn money from it, but when its dominated by what people want to see, then its not always what the roboteers want to do. and isnt that by any chance why we fight robots? To build and fight what we want?
Well my answer to that is yes...
And i bet many others think the same, just dont want to speak out.

Grant

[grant_ploughbot]

Hobbyweights anyone?

And yes Alan, the public do pay for events, but if they didnt would that mean that there wouldnt be any held?
Rc Wars holds practice events without paying public dont they. Although they are only small there events.
I would rather pay to enter an event where the robot classes and fights are what the roboteers want than get into an event for free and only do what the public want. I think its amasing at the moment how poeple such as RR pay for you to come and do your hobby, thats great. But i hope you can see what im trying to say, its not purely about the public like some of you make it sound out to be.

[blazerbotics]

Hobbyweights anyone?

but grant, your event is one of many throughout the year and my understanding is that you arena is going hired out to be used at public events.

[storm]

Hobbyweights anyone?

Yeah, I thought that was slightly ironic given those two back to back posts as well Alan ?????

Grant, Ive not said people shouldnt build them, Ive said think carefully about fragmenting a finite number of builders. Please read what Ive written before making sweeping statements about my views.

Ed
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