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Hobbyweights anyone?
It sounds like what we have here is a 6kg kit which people would like to fight. To me, thats distinct from a robot weight category. Ive got no problem with that, and no problem with people wanting to fight these 6kg kits at a live event (if enough people want to and the organizer thinks the crowd will like it); fair dos if someone wants to take them on with a robot not derived from the kit.
If people want to fight at 6kg and turn up with the robots, Im happy, but Im afraid Im swayed by the argument that Id want to see people choosing to aim for that category (with robots not directly derived from the kit) before we started making it a standard.
I think you might be taking it a bit far, though, Ed - although maybe its just the way Im reading your post. Maybe someone will benefit from selling a kit which makes building a robot for a given category easier; arguably the same is true now for the people who already sell kit suitable for the existing categories. I dont think there was any harm in asking whether people would like to see this weight category official (and therefore see more people enter *not* with this kit). Various people have expressed their opinion in response, which is all thath can be done of this forum, and although youve made your point well (and expressed the vehemence of your position with your agitation). If Grant had said he was trying to sell robots at this category at the moment the topic came up, hed have been accused of trying to cash in; hes allowed an opinion and it doesnt have to be unbiased, were not entitled to know everyones agenda.
This forum is full of leading questions - Im sure Ed gets plenty of questions about the details of the thickness of his armour and his ground clearance, and a good proportion of those will be people (whether they ever build or not) who are trying to work out ways to beat Storm. Im happy to admit that half the questions I ask of roboteers are on the basis that Id like to copy (hopefully with improvements) a bit of their design, and the other half are based on knowing exactly what Im facing so that I can beat it in the arena. I hope nobody takes offence at this - I can be interested in the cleverness of a design while still wanting to use that information for an ulterior motive. If someone has different private motives, Im not going to call foul.
Sorry Ed, not trying to attack you, just trying to justify everyones position and calm things down a bit (beyond me, I know).
Alan: probably. :-) (Which reminds me, about safety LEDs...)
Gary: Meh. A bit surprised that they didnt try to put things into the international bot name database. I think, both historically and by connection, you should feel you have the moral high ground. You could, of course, try claiming that the connection with the Typhoon aircraft is copyright of the RAF. :-)
Ironic that it looks a little bit like Storm 2, though.
Thatll teach everyone not to go with the mean n tuff names, and stick to Sunshine Lollybot and Fluffy.
Ill go back to my snipping and pruning.
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Fluppet
It sounds like what we have here is a 6kg kit which people would like to fight. To me, thats distinct from a robot weight category. Ive got no problem with that, and no problem with people wanting to fight these 6kg kits at a live event (if enough people want to and the organizer thinks the crowd will like it); fair dos if someone wants to take them on with a robot not derived from the kit.
If people want to fight at 6kg and turn up with the robots, Im happy, but Im afraid Im swayed by the argument that Id want to see people choosing to aim for that category (with robots not directly derived from the kit) before we started making it a standard.
I think you might be taking it a bit far, though, Ed - although maybe its just the way Im reading your post. Maybe someone will benefit from selling a kit which makes building a robot for a given category easier; arguably the same is true now for the people who already sell kit suitable for the existing categories. I dont think there was any harm in asking whether people would like to see this weight category official (and therefore see more people enter *not* with this kit). Various people have expressed their opinion in response, which is all thath can be done of this forum, and although youve made your point well (and expressed the vehemence of your position with your agitation). If Grant had said he was trying to sell robots at this category at the moment the topic came up, hed have been accused of trying to cash in; hes allowed an opinion and it doesnt have to be unbiased, were not entitled to know everyones agenda.
This forum is full of leading questions - Im sure Ed gets plenty of questions about the details of the thickness of his armour and his ground clearance, and a good proportion of those will be people (whether they ever build or not) who are trying to work out ways to beat Storm. Im happy to admit that half the questions I ask of roboteers are on the basis that Id like to copy (hopefully with improvements) a bit of their design, and the other half are based on knowing exactly what Im facing so that I can beat it in the arena. I hope nobody takes offence at this - I can be interested in the cleverness of a design while still wanting to use that information for an ulterior motive. If someone has different private motives, Im not going to call foul.
Sorry Ed, not trying to attack you, just trying to justify everyones position and calm things down a bit (beyond me, I know).
Alan: probably. :-) (Which reminds me, about safety LEDs...)
Gary: Meh. A bit surprised that they didnt try to put things into the international bot name database. I think, both historically and by connection, you should feel you have the moral high ground. You could, of course, try claiming that the connection with the Typhoon aircraft is copyright of the RAF. :-)
Ironic that it looks a little bit like Storm 2, though.
Thatll teach everyone not to go with the mean n tuff names, and stick to Sunshine Lollybot and Fluffy.
Ill go back to my snipping and pruning.
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Fluppet
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