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  • #16
    Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

    Hang on.

    Using the simple fact that their is 7 flippers (call Storm 2 a flipper as it has that lifter) at least 1 flipper will make it into the grand final.

    That flipper will either be
    Firestorm 5/Mute/Storm 2/Grim Reaper

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    • #17
      Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

      Actually, Storm 2 may HAVE a lifter, but its really more a Rammer than a flipper. Its never been counted as a flipper on the RW forum.

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      • #18
        Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

        Storm 2s lifter is a questionable item.

        *changes wording of last post to say*

        A robot with a lifting weapon will get though etc

        I call Storm 2 an electric well engineered arm (although Gyrobot is more enginnered in my view).

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        • #19
          Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

          Storm 2s principle weapon has always been the ramming though. If Hypnodisc installed a small rear lifter, wed still call it a spinner.

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          • #20
            Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

            Its got one. You just have to end up carelessly sitting on its srimech. :-)

            --
            Fluppet

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            • #21
              Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

              [I call Storm 2 an electric well engineered arm]

              That got posted wrong, it seems like I said Storm 2 is an arm. DOH!

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              • #22
                Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                Storm 2 has a lifter, but it can flip. I suppose its what it was originaly deisgned for. SO Ed, is it a lifter or a flipper?

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                • #23
                  Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                  Straight from http://www.stormrobot.comhttp://www.stormrobot.com

                  - Electro-mechanical lifter mechanism jointly designed by the Storm and Terrorhurtz teams

                  So its a lifter.

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                  • #24
                    Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                    theyve only got that lifter so they can compete in series 7 as weaponless robots are banned

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                    • #25
                      Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                      Same reason tornado put a small chain on thier wedge weapon

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                      • #26
                        Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                        You mean the rotating toothpick?

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                        • #27
                          Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                          quoteYer its funny how forums have been full of threads saying how its the year of the flippers
                          and look how many flippers are through
                          Amusing/quote

                          quoteI must take some of the stick for this, I was one of the main voices of the all flippers grand final think tank. But i still wouldnt rule out Atomic 2./quote

                          I think I should take more stick than anyone else, as I was the chief pessimist about the dominance of flippers in the heats - but in this case Im glad to be eating my words over it. Some interesting stats:

                          1st war: 1 flipper (grand final)
                          2nd war: 3 flippers (semis) down to 1 (grand final)
                          3rd war: 3 flippers (4th round) down to 2 (6th round)
                          4th war: 5 flippers (4th round) down to 1 (6th round)
                          5th war: 5 flippers (4th round) down to 2 (6th round)
                          6th war: 4 flippers (4th round) down to 1 (6th round)
                          7th war: 11 flippers (4th round) down to 0 (6th round)

                          Quite ironic really, that the war that produces more flippers in the 4th round than any other, produces less flippers than any other in the 6th round.

                          And Storm 2 has a lifter, as robots dont get flung into the air by compressed gas and OOTA when its used. And the motion is different to a flipper (ie. upwards then forwards in a controlled motion rather than an accelerating thrust in a single arc). It resembles BioHazards arm, which is classed as a lifter.

                          Could come in useful though, should it meet a spinner. (as one cant self-right and the other one has difficulty, although that stick they put on above the disc will help greatly)

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                          • #28
                            Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                            Actually, there were two flippers in the Final of S2; Panic Attack and Cassius.

                            Also, Steg-O-Saw-Us could be classed as a flipper, because of the rear lifting tail.

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                            • #29
                              Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                              Panic Attack was a lifter (well, a pusher really as the forks werent used back then) and Steg was a pusher (in the same way Storm 2/Tornado are, even though they have lifting weapons)

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                              • #30
                                Likely No Flippers in Grand Final

                                The forks werent used back then? How did they flip Whirling Dervish without any lifting devices, then?

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