Rule 6.3 The Link

[robjones]

I was reading about Typhoon II in the latest RW members mag and the way in which they located the link. Ive mused over full body spinners in the past but rules in 6.3 seem to make them all fall foul of this rule.
How can the link be removed from the centre of Typhoon II without endagering the person?(assuming that due to an internal problem the disk is still spinning).Surely impossible, I wouldnt do it!!
Also rule 6.3.2 says that the link must be fitted away from weaponry. Yeah right! Grab the link and lose your feet.
I have to do Risk Assessments all the time at work IMO link positions should be assessed in this way.
I suppose an RC switch as a dead mans switch in series with the link goes part way but its still not within the rules as I read them. Or am I wrong?

[blazerbotics]

Rule 6.3 The Link

it does say somewhere, that if the posistioning of the link is effected due to the design (ie full body spinner) then contact mentorn. so i assume they have had some prior agreement. as far as im aware they use the same system in all the robots, and the middleweight has been around for a while now, so i would assume any concerns would of been raised then.

[robjones]

Rule 6.3 The Link

But thats a cop out. Its either safe or it isnt. Whats the point of the rule if its down to discretion.

[spinnerboy]

Rule 6.3 The Link

so true rob.

i also deal with health and saftey at work,and your right rules are rules and companys often bend the rules to make things easier for them selfs

[leorcc]

Rule 6.3 The Link

If Typhoon II spins out of control, the house robots need to pin it down first. In fact, that was what they were there for in the first place. However, the design of the entire Typhoon family is about the same, and should be possible to remove that flag safely. i mean, they have to do it themselves on a regular basis, so i assume they have taken that into account.

[babeth]

Rule 6.3 The Link

You have to remain out of the reach of your robots weapon when putting or pulling the removable link. Typhoon is not that big that an adult cannot reach out and take or place the flag. Besides, you are protected by the lower gate of the bullpen in the Mentorn arena.

[robjones]

Rule 6.3 The Link

Im not saying its impossible to remove the flag Im saying that it contravenes the rules in 6.3 and that I wouldnt like to lean over to grab the flag if the weapon was on and the drive was twitching about.

[babeth]

Rule 6.3 The Link

You also dont want to try and take the removable link out of any other robot thats still running and having its weapon active. Du-uh !
I know several other robots whose removable links are far more difficult to safely reach than Typhoons. Really.

[leorcc]

Rule 6.3 The Link

Mine for instance. And im working on it to solve that.

[panicuk]

Rule 6.3 The Link

Hi All
Something you all might want to think about!
Speaking from the point of view of one who has had the experience of removing the links in most of the competing robots in robot wars. The main issue for the Tech crew is, Can the link be removed safely when the robot is Live or upsidedown outside the arena?.
With full body spinners we can use a House robot to stop them and pin the against the arena wall before making them safe.
Most of the problems come from roboteers putting the link behind a cover or door that is screwed or locked. If that cover becomes damaged in some way how are we supposed to get to the link with the robot on its side? Even with easy access it is very difficult to pull the links on some robots.
The rules are there for ours and your safety, mentorn does not bend the rules, If the tech crew think it will be too dangerious to safely remove the link then that robot team will have to make modifications to their machine to make it safe
Please remember, when you build your robot think about where you will position the link. Then take a sledge hammer to it and perhaps cut a few pannels with an axe, then see if you can still remove the link without cutting you hand on the very small sharp edged access hole coverd with a bent piece of 5mm steel.
Keep it safe out there :-)

[team_ireland]

Rule 6.3 The Link

Guys I have a problem!

I have three removable links in my robot. They are:
1. Receiver
2. Drive
3. Weapon (flipper)

I know according to the procedure I turn on my tx then the rx but which link should i put in next? My flipper weapon link or my drive link?

Please advise

Regards
Ian Mc Donald

[leorcc]

Rule 6.3 The Link

Kim,just out of curiosity, where is the link located on Panic Attack and is it behind a cover?

[panicuk]

Rule 6.3 The Link

Hi leo
There is a 5x3 inch square hole in the rear of Panic Attack. It has no cover or door. The link is easily reached with the robot in any position. We have added a skirt on the rear now but that does not get in the way at all.

[spinnerboy]

Rule 6.3 The Link

So Kim if typhoon gets flipped out the arena going at full speed and something breaks so it cant be stopped would u fancy going up to it and pulling the link out cus i sure as hell would not.

[panicuk]

Rule 6.3 The Link

Chris
The reason why we are quite strick about the link position is that WE are the ones that have to remove them after the battle. We are not just being awkward.
Typhoon.
We had this discussion when series 7 was being filmed and came to the conclusion that it would be most unlikely that Typhoon would get flipped out of the arena.
We would also ask the team of any flipper that was about to fight typhoon not to do so, but if they were losing the battle then they were free to do as they pleased.
If the worst case happened an a full body spinner did go out of the arena and was spinning at full speed then it would be delt with as safe as possible makeing sure that nobody got hurt in the process.
One thing though ! if you shut off the transmitter then the fail safe should stop the weapon, making the robot safe!