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[john]

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if i dont go work next yr then ill prob go uni in 2009 wooooooooooo

[john]

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oops lol went bk b4 it loaded to change the date but it posted it

[swanaldo]

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build some sand castles joey

[john]

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i no what ill be doing after this month

flipping envy out of the arena

[RogueTwoRobots]

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Dont go to uni LJ, its crap

Ok thats not entirely true - the lifestyle is excellent, the friends you make, the nights out in the city - that aspect is fantastic. And of course, it all depends on which subject/course you take.
But Im doing engineering at Glasgow Uni and its all theory they teach you. No practical work at all, and for someone like me who is more practical-minded than theory-minded, that isnt a good thing. Lucky Ive got robots to work on to add a bit of practical work to my time

Got through first year fine, failed second year, repeating it this year but got four summer resits already lined up. Dont think my hearts in it anymore, so Im considering switching to an apprenticeship next year.

If its engineering youre thinking of doing, go for an apprenticeship - no student debts to accumulate and if you find a decent one you get good money for doing it

And Ill now let Shane have his thread back :P

[robotwars]

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Hi Guys,

Saw your discussion, I€™m bored waiting for milk to cool, my turn for the night time feeds for the baby !!!

I had the same issues when leaving school.... I am more a practical person than a theory person.

Originally I took an apprenticeship, but later decided that I wanted to go to uni, so i took a Btec national certificate in engineering aswell,, and did both side by side. Hard work to do both, but i was willing to put the effort in.

I then got to Coventry University, and now have my degree in Automotive Engineering Design. This course was perfect for me as it had both theory, and practical projects throughout.

In the current world we live in, I would strongly recommend getting a degree.
Uni life is one to be experienced, and as for the debt, I treated it the same as a mortgage, most people have one, unless you are one of the lucky few who dont.

If robots dies tomorrow, i know id be able to go and get a job easily because of my degree.
A LOT of work i do in education is about the promotion of engineering, and further education. Im even an ambassador for Setpoint for the same reason. Theres no harm in setting your sights high !!

I wouldn€™t be off to Singapore in two weeks to do some teaching out there without my degree.... the ministry of education wouldn€™t have even considered me otherwise.

Just my thoughts

John
http://www.RoamingRobots.co.ukwww.RoamingRobots.co.uk

[joey_picus]

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I cant build proper sandcastles - not enough water

I am actually planning on getting a proper education and a degree, its just my plans are incredibly vague other than go to some university, hence me saying that. I seem to be more focused than a lot of people here, who all seem to be going to university after this year, but thats a rant for another time...

[kodster]

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Swanny! Take a look in the Vapourbot Images thread.

[john]

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well i went for like 3 interviews at my dads place for an apprenticeship but they didnt want me in the end! i no - they made a big mistake lol

but everyone who dont get one there always do better then the people who do from the ppl i no so it best carry on to me!

im off to school now to do ict revision for 4 lessons :sad: i was enjoyin the nice sleep i was getting on study leave

robots best not die tomo either jonno! lol

[widow_twanky]

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Actually Joey I found myself in a similar situation where after the first year heart wasnt in it. I went off did my own thing and went back about four years later and did it part time.

It worked for me and certainly the first year was a lot easier because you can transfer across the credits.

I also found it a lot easier to learn the theory behind the stuff i was doing rather than learn the raw theory before doing anything.

As an employer I would say that a degree is invaluable. It helps you to be taken seriously. That said it isnt everything and there are other ways.

Another thing about engineering Joey you will not be short of a job. There arent enough people interested in maths based stuff to fill the jobs available.

You can always take a year out and either travel or work and then go back to it.

Andy

[joey_picus]

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...were you meaning me or Jamie?

[RogueTwoRobots]

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I think he may have been meaning me but very worthwhile advice in general.

Reading it now in the light of day, my post is not the most structured or good advice posts around.

Totally agree that a degree is very valuable in todays world and that it helps to be taken seriously.
Unis not for everyone (thinking its not for me) but for a lot of others, it is the best path.

Although what youve said Andy, about coming back and doing it part-time after doing something else (possibly in my case, the apprenticeship), thats a pretty good solution and one which would probably benefit me more. I must consider that

So yeah, I wasnt trying to imply that uni is completely useless in my first post, although reading it now it sounds like it a bit; I was just being in a very anti-uni mood last night

[swanaldo]

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well my 2 pence worth is that if i were to sit an interiew in my business i would choose the person who has had experience in the sector over the student from uni. then iwouldnt expect someone tograduate from uni to work in a casino. at uni you dont get taught life skills. yes they will teach you to be a plumber but will they teach you how to deal with that arkward customer that wont pay. oh shut up shane you div

[swanaldo]

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thanks kody for them images of envy they are perfect. anyone who is interested go look in the fanfic under vapourbot images. its worth it.

[RogueTwoRobots]

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Nah in uni, theyll teach you to use some complex equation to work out a length of pipe need to fill in a gap in a plumbing system. In real life, they use a magic little tool called a measuring tape

About picking a sector person over a student, thats what happens a lot, people coming out of uni with their degree looking to get a job, but get turned down in favour of someone who did an apprenticeship because of the benefit of practical skills that they will have (although for the situations I heard of, it was only in engineering so I dont know if it happens in other jobs, and to be fair, not EVERY job is like that - but it does happen)