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That is the biggest question and balance companies needs to make these days, paper work qualification or hard practical experience. It€™s a bit more noticeable in design mainly in like engineering and computer work, media and so on.
Though the industry is changing it€™s attitudes a little bit, now asking for paper work qualifications now. They tend to pay people less without a degree than someone with one. But then other companies are tend to employ you with years of experience without a degree than someone fresh out of Uni. But the amount of people or mature students that have been in my course this year because they now need the paper work for the company to justify their wages has nearly tripled over the last 3 years. They have a job, but being told they need a degree now to keep their current job wages or something.
I half wish I took the course which spends the 3rd year in placement and then finish off my 3rd year studies in a 4th year, but I just wanted to get the degree done and get a job. But your more chance of getting a job with a degree AND experience. Though I€™ve been lucky with some job interviews showing I have experience from else where, including from Roaming Robots. But also my Uni have made sure when we did our Independent Study (Dissertation) we had to use a REAL client. This meant first hand experience dealing with the real world which looks impressive on my degree and CV.
I nearly didn€™t go to Uni because I was a bit bored and sick of education, but was told by quite a few people and mates that it€™s not education there (well it is) but it€™s also learning life skills and it€™s not all hard work, there is plenty of time to chill and make the most of life without too many boundaries. Though I must say I have found the past 3 years at Uni LESS STRESSFUL than GCSE and A Levels. Pick a subject you enjoy the most at Uni that your interested in, stick to the plans and work loads and your fine. Yes the level of work is higher, but you can concentrate on just one subject.
Go to Uni - I know too many people who regret over not going, than people saying €œim glad I didn€™t go€Â. Not just for the qualification but for the experience. One of the best moves I made in my life and recommend it to anyone.
As john said above, if robots die out, he has a degree to fall back on, and now years of experience. But people look at your qualification FIRST, then your experience in this day and age anyway. To the point now a degree is not the bench mark - a Masters is now the new bench mark which is why I€™m considering doing a Masters next to stay on level above.
Shane said: €œat uni you dont get taught life skills. yes they will teach you to be a plumber but will they teach you how to deal with that arkward customer that wont pay. oh shut up shane you div€Â
I disagree Shane - we get taught how to cope with the computer users (or abusers we call them) and how thick the average adult is on a computer and how to deal with these €œthink they know it all€ abusers when doing software support and customer debugging. Haha. But in fairness they do bring you into the real world and so on, I€™ve learnt most of my life skills from Uni so far.
Sorry about my essay - lol - but go to Uni if you get the chance, stick at it, it has a big impact on your life, and 99% for the good.
Mr Stu
ADDED EXTRA: Also you get the few Uni students who just do nothing but prat about and drink and get in trouble - these are normaly the sports students at my Uni.. and most fail their assessments and drop out, and they give Uni students the bad rep. There is plenty of time for parties and fun and going out and chilling than doing just work. I only had 4 lectures a week, each being 3 hours long each. And i was luck that i had 2 on monday and 2 on thrusday, so i had all the other days off. Was fun ... hehe.}
(Message edited by stu on May 14, 200
That is the biggest question and balance companies needs to make these days, paper work qualification or hard practical experience. It€™s a bit more noticeable in design mainly in like engineering and computer work, media and so on.
Though the industry is changing it€™s attitudes a little bit, now asking for paper work qualifications now. They tend to pay people less without a degree than someone with one. But then other companies are tend to employ you with years of experience without a degree than someone fresh out of Uni. But the amount of people or mature students that have been in my course this year because they now need the paper work for the company to justify their wages has nearly tripled over the last 3 years. They have a job, but being told they need a degree now to keep their current job wages or something.
I half wish I took the course which spends the 3rd year in placement and then finish off my 3rd year studies in a 4th year, but I just wanted to get the degree done and get a job. But your more chance of getting a job with a degree AND experience. Though I€™ve been lucky with some job interviews showing I have experience from else where, including from Roaming Robots. But also my Uni have made sure when we did our Independent Study (Dissertation) we had to use a REAL client. This meant first hand experience dealing with the real world which looks impressive on my degree and CV.
I nearly didn€™t go to Uni because I was a bit bored and sick of education, but was told by quite a few people and mates that it€™s not education there (well it is) but it€™s also learning life skills and it€™s not all hard work, there is plenty of time to chill and make the most of life without too many boundaries. Though I must say I have found the past 3 years at Uni LESS STRESSFUL than GCSE and A Levels. Pick a subject you enjoy the most at Uni that your interested in, stick to the plans and work loads and your fine. Yes the level of work is higher, but you can concentrate on just one subject.
Go to Uni - I know too many people who regret over not going, than people saying €œim glad I didn€™t go€Â. Not just for the qualification but for the experience. One of the best moves I made in my life and recommend it to anyone.
As john said above, if robots die out, he has a degree to fall back on, and now years of experience. But people look at your qualification FIRST, then your experience in this day and age anyway. To the point now a degree is not the bench mark - a Masters is now the new bench mark which is why I€™m considering doing a Masters next to stay on level above.
Shane said: €œat uni you dont get taught life skills. yes they will teach you to be a plumber but will they teach you how to deal with that arkward customer that wont pay. oh shut up shane you div€Â
I disagree Shane - we get taught how to cope with the computer users (or abusers we call them) and how thick the average adult is on a computer and how to deal with these €œthink they know it all€ abusers when doing software support and customer debugging. Haha. But in fairness they do bring you into the real world and so on, I€™ve learnt most of my life skills from Uni so far.
Sorry about my essay - lol - but go to Uni if you get the chance, stick at it, it has a big impact on your life, and 99% for the good.
Mr Stu
ADDED EXTRA: Also you get the few Uni students who just do nothing but prat about and drink and get in trouble - these are normaly the sports students at my Uni.. and most fail their assessments and drop out, and they give Uni students the bad rep. There is plenty of time for parties and fun and going out and chilling than doing just work. I only had 4 lectures a week, each being 3 hours long each. And i was luck that i had 2 on monday and 2 on thrusday, so i had all the other days off. Was fun ... hehe.}
(Message edited by stu on May 14, 200
) so Im going to college. 
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