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  • #31
    New year message from the FRA

    Sorry if this has been covered and I missed it but how does the rule stating that all teams must be members of the FRA affect Antweight roboteers? Some Antweights are planning (I think) to attend a Robots Live event this year for example and I am pretty sure some people who do ants are not FRA members.

    Will this be clarified if it comes under the rare/exceptional circumstances closer to the event?

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    Mike
    http://www.bobblebot.co.ukhttp://www.bobblebot.co.uk - *New Site*

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    • #32
      New year message from the FRA

      happy new year ED

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      • #33
        New year message from the FRA

        Happy New Year Tim and also to Meral.

        I would like to clarify the reason the FRA ask that all roboteers are members. It is so they are covered by the FRAs professional indemnity insurance. This also give consistancy to all the events and event organisers. We will all be singing off the same hymn sheet.


        I would like to finish off by saying that Geoff had nothing to do with this post. If you have a problem, come and see me.

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        • #34
          New year message from the FRA

          on my way jenny.........woohoooooooo

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          • #35
            New year message from the FRA

            Hey Swanny, I never knew you were thinking about a change of career to a soprano singer

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            • #36
              New year message from the FRA

              I can sing falsetto. La La Laaaaa see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • #37
                New year message from the FRA

                Guys I would appreciate it if we could keep this on topic.

                Thanks Jenny

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                • #38
                  New year message from the FRA

                  sorry jenny

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                  • #39
                    New year message from the FRA

                    Karoline & Jenny - many thanks for your responses and a Happy New Year to you both from both Meral and myself.

                    Firstly Karoline - the reason why I have not personally joined is contained within my paragraph five. I currently have legitimate (in my opinion) reason as to why I have not joined the FRA. I will not go into detail in open forum - as I do not believe that to be appropriate behaviour. However, in answer to your question, my reason is both in relation to the handling of a specific incident involving myself as well as more general concerns which I have expressed to the FRA Governing Body. :sad:

                    I did not mention this in the first place as my questions are in relation to the general situation (and its effects on any who feel they have a legititmate reason for not being a member rather than myself or any other as a specific case)

                    Jenny - whilst I am aware of the professional indemnity insurance offered by the FRA I am unclear as to what has changed since last year to make it mandatory for all participants to be members when this has never been a case in the past?

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                    • #40
                      New year message from the FRA

                      Tim (and all) My view is that our sport is is on the edge of survival. So we should all show solidarity by belonging to our national association, regardless of any criticisms we might have of it. My cheque is in the mail.

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                      • #41
                        New year message from the FRA

                        Tim


                        I€™m sorry you feel you can€™t join the FRA I know there has been some bad blood between some people in the community just before I joined I don€™t know what its about, and I don€™t think going over old ground would help. I have had times when people have been less than kind to me in my life. Without seeming trite or shallow have you considered forgiving them un-conditionally? I know this approach to the lingering pain of rejection and hurt worked for me. Don€™t let your obvious pain stop you from being a part of the FRA community. It takes a bigger man to stop the hating. Hope this helps.


                        Craig

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                        • #42
                          New year message from the FRA

                          I fully echo your sentiments Craig. In the past I have directly locked horns with those closest to me - even in the roboteering community. The initial fallout is painful but with understanding and forgiveness relationships have been repaired and have gone from strength to strength.

                          (And we all raise our glasses and sing Auld Lang Syne at the top of our voices )

                          (Message edited by anukhet on January 06, 200

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                          • #43
                            New year message from the FRA

                            i too will agree craig well put.

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                            • #44
                              New year message from the FRA

                              Craig,

                              apologies but you are missing my point - this is not about me.

                              I am attempting to promote general discussion (hence not originally commenting on my position until questioned).

                              John is spot on when he says that our sport is on the edge of survival - so, my question is why potentially risk alienating any of our semi-active or occasional roboteers? I do not want to see us lose a single team or individual from the community as a result of this change in policy

                              Craig, those that know me know that I am not one to hold a grudge and one of the people who has tried to maintain the peace on many occasions in the past. I have absolutely no hate to stop.

                              Could I ask please for the discussion to move away from me (as an individual) to the general point of mandatory membership and the potential implications of such as per my original post

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                              • #45
                                New year message from the FRA

                                I can see where you are coming from Tim with your comments and I thank you for bringing up the discussion.

                                I think I would consider myself to be an occasional roboteer. I can only attend events once in a blue moon for two reasons, distance and the fact that I build spinners.

                                I am happy to pay £10 to be a member of the FRA for a few reasons,

                                - Our sport is on the ropes. Yes it has got far better in recent years and the future does look bright, but it could well only take 6 to 9 months of bad events to kill it off completely.

                                - I believe in the aims of the FRA. There are occasions that sometimes make me question the FRA but then I remind myself that these are generally down to a few small individuals. The overwhelming majority of roboteers are a great bunch.

                                - £10 isnt a huge amount when you consider that the majority of the components in my machine cost triple that at least.

                                - I get another card for my wallet which always makes for interesting conversation whenever someone takes a look in it.

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