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  • #46
    Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

    Cheeky boy system has 12 legs i think, itll probably fll voer or strumble with only 8 so there

    Also I think with such minimal power in your mobility you wont be able to move at all. You expecting Two standard wheelchair motors, at 12 volts power the legs to move. to work. I use magmotors at 36 to get archangel moving, that poer had to go through all the cams in the legs and i doubt what your suggestign would be adequate.

    Let me just do a quick weight breakdown, and this is the non techie here

    engine - 40 kg
    shell - 20kg
    chassis - 74 kg
    claws: there are six of which so, as for exampel the mortis axe blade weights 3kg, assuming its half the weight of that we get 9kg for puny blades
    a starter motor, lets be generous and say there weight 3kg
    same again for the wheelchair motors

    That 152kg, which means your trying to fit batteries, the legs of the machines, the skirts and the fuel tank into 48kg. Considerign scuttle b2 (anarchy without the armour or weapons) weights 100 that just aint gonna happen, especially seeign as the design of the cheeky boy system requires large feet.

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    • #47
      Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

      I would say that the shell wil break up upon reaching max velocity. Mainly because Dave is stretching 20kg worth of metal around a 1.6m diameter. Thats almost only 2mm steel ! For that size and speed, I would like to see a minimum of 75kg weight spent into the shell before I would believe it will survive.

      The engine, is possible, but Ive never heard of any Rotax motors running turbo/charger on the intakes, is this some new, uncommon racing mod? Also 4litres of fuel is a bucket load for that size of motor. That would run it for several hours! I would expect something like that being used with a Gas Turbine!

      The walking system, I wont get started on that, but I know the Anarchy system can be done with four legs per side with chains, sprockets, legs and structure around them for under 25kg each side with no problems (This includes PERM080 drive motors)

      survive the hits by the almightily MDU

      Okay, enough of this... MDU is gone.. its in the past, stop damn posting it in your stats!(This goes for everyone else too)

      Well Im going back into my workshop to play with my omnibot. BYE

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      • #48
        Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

        But he would need 50 kg in total for the legs and parts that go with it, but then he doesnt have any weight for the large and heavy fuel tank, the skrits or the batteries.

        Additionally even for a full body spinner hes using almost 75% of his weight in his weapon, in contrast tengu and archangel only have around 50.


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        • #49
          Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

          *Wonders why the american system is growing and the british system is dying*

          Jihad was only a joky entry, t was 30 months old, so thats why its so shit. Another change of entry, replace Jihad with The Linear Mover which is an idea I had, stats when I can be asked to draw it up, you might have a lovely picture of it as well

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          • #50
            Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

            Oh for any applicable deities sake!

            STOP DOOMSAYING YOU TWERP!

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            • #51
              Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

              The Linear Mover

              Mass - I don€™t know(with any luck within 200 kg )
              Weapons - A 6-bar spinner (weighing 26 kg) (Bar sits on top) with the ends bent downwards to stop robots getting underneath. The bar is powered by a Lem 130 at 48 volts, and spins to about 3000 rpm. The bar has suspension on it, so it can hit hard objects without breaking
              Srimech - It has a large pole on the top to self-right
              Velocity - 02(TWO) mph!!!
              Ground clearance - At lowest, with the legs up, the base is on the ground, with the legs down it is 1cm.
              Skirts - Nah, the legs go up.
              Wheel Type - 8 legs with a linear actuator in the middle of the legs motion, so is the leg. When the actuator retracts, the leg goes forwards, and when the actuator is at the end of its movement, the leg is going backwards. It€™s a bit like a train (Ta for Mr Frank). There is a 2nd linear actuator on each leg to lift it up, mainly to allow the first actuator to go back without moving.
              Motors - No Thanks, I will pass on having drive motors this time
              Batteries - Enough to survive 6 minutes of fighting action.
              Body Shape - Cut-Off cone, with Ziggo style Srimech bar
              Armour - 4mm titanium cone, with steel inner section/base.
              Colour - The bar is red

              Summary - It€™s a walker designed with those anti-walkers in mind, if the system doesn€™t class as a proper walker, nothing will. Thanks to Frank for suggestions.
              Strengths - Weapon, 360 degree attack, Srimech, Most of weight is in base
              Weaknesses - Crap at turning, crap speed, not the best to drive.

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              • #52
                Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                Ingore those stats please mr martyn:

                The Linear Mover

                Mass - I don€™t know (with any luck within 200 kg )

                Weapons - A spinning semi-shell (aka Typhoon), powered by a Lem 200 at 48 volts. The shell weighs in the region off 45 kg and takes ~ 2 seconds to spin up fully to 950 rpm, with the gearing from the motor. The shell has blades, 4 on the bottom level (1mm from base) and 4, 5cm up. The blades up a bit are longer so that it hits with 2 blades. The shell itself has rubber suspension to take

                Srimech - It has a large pole on the top to self-right; it€™s bent at the end

                Velocity - Two mph!!!

                Ground clearance - At lowest, with the legs up, the base is on the ground, with the legs down it is 1cm, but it changes when walking.

                Skirts - Nah, it€™s variable ground clearance, so skirts would get in the way.

                Wheel Type - 8 legs with a linear actuator in the middle of the legs motion, so is the leg. When the actuator retracts, the leg goes forwards, and when the actuator is at the end of its movement, the leg is going backwards. It€™s a bit like a train (Ta for Mr Frank). There is a 2nd linear actuator on each leg to lift it up, mainly to allow the first actuator to go back without moving the robot back. There is a back-up system in which the entire leg system can drop down to lift the base off the ground to move.

                Motors - No Thanks, I will pass on having drive motors this time

                Batteries - Enough to survive 6 minutes of fighting action.

                Body Shape - Cut-Off cone, with Ziggo style Srimech bar

                Armour -6mm titanium cone. Steel chassis, aluminium legs.

                Colour - The bar is red

                Summary - It€™s a walker designed with those anti-walkers in mind, if the system doesn€™t class as a proper walker, nothing will. Thanks to Frank for suggestions.
                Strengths - Weapon, 360 degree attack, Srimech, Most of weight is in base.
                Weaknesses - Crap at turning, crap speed, not the best to drive

                Yep, Im that bored.

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                • #53
                  Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                  Unpretty picture here - http://www.geocities.com/mrdave1986/TheLinearMover.bmphttp://www.geocities.com/mrdave1986/TheLinearMover.bmp

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                  • #54
                    Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                    Just get rid of your walkers. If you cant design a walker we dont have a problem with, doesnt it say something?

                    Ill have a look at this new one.

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                    • #55
                      Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                      Build it and Ill believe it.

                      The reason the UK vapourbots are dieing is because people like you, Dave, are constantly trying to pass off cannon fodder as entries.

                      Damn I miss the days of SpinVerter 3, VGer and The Robot That Wasnt There.

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                      • #56
                        Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                        If this walker isnt a true walker in the terms of martyn, then what is? I designed it with the Fra walking rules in mind, so no cams, no chains, no gears.

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                        • #57
                          Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                          It is a true walker. According to the rules, Ill give you that, it looks almost the same as the Jim Struts/Miss Struts walking mech.

                          The whole cam situation only applies to people mounting off centred wheels (CAMS) and calling them walkers. One of Christian Carlbergs robots was like this and was quickly banned.

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                          • #58
                            Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                            V-gers still around, so 1 out of 3 aint bad.

                            ...Actually, yes it is. Its only 33%

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                            • #59
                              Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                              %33.3 and a third, Frank.

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                              • #60
                                Martyns Robot Wars Series 5

                                Tony, stop being so picky

                                quote:

                                It is a true walker. According to the rules, Ill give you that, it looks almost the same as the Jim Struts/Miss Struts walking mech.

                                Thats whats it suppose to be, an old-school walker which are slow, crap to turn and normally have limited runs. If I wanted a fast walker, I would just use the shuffler system called Anarchy. Besides like I been asking, what other weapon are you suppose to put on a 2 mph walker to give it some hope...

                                ... a flipper?

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