This isn't fun anymore

[kodster]

This isnt fun anymore

Leo, can you please change the title of the thread? I really dont like it.

[leorcc]

This isnt fun anymore

Only if Martyn agrees, he started the thread.

[martyn]

This isnt fun anymore

No i dont agree to changing the title, i gave it this title because it is my opinion and i still stand by it, that this isnt really fun anymore.

[kodster]

This isnt fun anymore

Then you can retire from it. We cant force people to stay, or change their mind; we really dont want people to leave vapourbots, but if thats your opinion, then go with it.

Simple as that.

*awaits insults*

[martyn]

This isnt fun anymore

Kody, you arent helping, and your statment shows you have completly missed the whole point of me saying that this isnt fun anymore. I say im not having fun anymore, you dont make any suggestions you just say oh retire then. Reacting as if i have insulted something you created.

(Message edited by martyn on August 15, 200

[kodster]

This isnt fun anymore

Its because I dont have any other suggestions to give; if vapourbots isnt fun for you anymore, then fine. Im not going to go out of my way to keep you around. :P

(Message edited by kodster on August 15, 200

[kodster]

This isnt fun anymore

Right. After a very brief MSN argument with Martyn...well, Ill repeat it...

Martyn said to me:

i wont sugercoat this, you go around acting like you started vapours and it is something you control, something where you permit who can play and who cant, and like you decie when a major change has to happen when you want it to and try and force it on anyone and if people dont play by your rules you dont want them to play the game.

im not the only person who thinks like this either

For Martyn and anyone who is thinking the exact same thing he is, I will repeat what I said:

I dont base what I say to newbies on opinion, I base it on FACT. When I say put that in your stats Im not saying it because I want it to be that way, Im saying it because its the right thing to do in the Fanfic section.

I started nothing, I control nothing, and I certainly dont go around acting like I do. :P

And I stand by what I said. I honestly dont want control. Control has to be split among the vapourbot community rather equally, or, as its been said, it just wont be appealing enough for any newcomers.

As for advice, I only tell newbies to the community these things because its the right thing to do. Although some of you may argue what the right thing is...

Respond to this whatever way you want Martyn. I dont care. I honestly dont. I have had a lot of respect for you, especially after you welcomed me back to the community in 2006, but its getting slim.

If this is the way its going to be, I wont be on FanFic as much either. This is just god damn ridiculous.

Thank you.

[shadowflare]

This isnt fun anymore

Ok, Im new and all, and havent even posted my first vapor yet, but come ON. This is stupid!

Seriously, guys, if it isnt fun anymore, offer up suggestions to make it fun again. Because sitting there and complaining about it without taking action to remedy the problem is not helping.

[knightrous]

This isnt fun anymore

Its a thread.... You click the link, you read it, and you get on with your life... Who cares what its called..

[kodster]

This isnt fun anymore

...I think I am beginning to realize the severity of my idiocy in that post earlier...

*epic facepalm of fail*

Meh, you guys are right...maybe Im going a little too far; I shall stop here for today. I really dont want the forum split up over this nonsense and I hope Aarons right that it wont.

Damnit Aaron, whenever I need a slap in the face, Im coming to you. :P

[knightrous]

This isnt fun anymore

double post. Nice calculator Mark, I remember seeing this before, the only thing I can fault it with is it makes a lot of assumptions. Also labeling motors like little drills, are you talking about Dewalts? RS-775s? RS-550s? RS-540s? RS-380s? All motors Ive seen come on small drills. The usage of volume is for weight calculation a good idea, but IMHO it would only work accurately if your building a brick. An advance calculator, but maybe not suited to this area.

I look forward to any updates you make on it though :-)

[majinb]

This isnt fun anymore

Let me describe the situation on our hands nowadays...

Yes, Kodys pressence is very widely known, BUT, how he expresses himself nowadays isnt REMOTELY like the heated discussions we saw in Mark Elams time, or Tim Sillerys or...

Yeah, Kody was very blunt towards Paul, but he should NOT accept the fact that Paul tries to push forward a 150+ kg robot in C&B, especially when you consider the fact Paul himself agreed on the fact that said robot needed to lose some weight, not too long ago. Likewise, Kody should not accept defeat against such robot considering Kody himself builds his bot very carefully.

Yes, Kody is very active in judging Bens robots. Ben is a newcomer, like Mark, Ruark, Andre, Timmy etc were. Compare todays situation with the situation back then and its clear to me Kodys softening up.

Myeah, the battery discussion got revived thanks to C&B3 but its not like Kodys the one who started this discussion back when it first appeared. I know for a fact some of us ask around when in need of battery info rather than researching themselves, and I think we shouldnt be forced to become battery experts. Kody giving Paul sme pointers wouldnt hurt... In the end its Kodys tournament and Kody was the one who wrote in the rules batteries were required...

In conclusion Id like to quote Kody in the How to Improve Topic not too long ago
quote:

You know what, its just too irritating.

Im ignoring all the n00bs and n00bish posts that come in Fanfic section for now, unless its directly involving me.
That was a turning point to me, though he got more active lately. I find the How to Improve topic very useful and Kody you are one of the biggest contributers, but I wanna advise you to only give his advise on points where people are totally in the dark, or on points where people have questions.

My 2 cents.

(Message edited by MajinB on August 16, 200