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And have more traction. A LOT more. (well depending on the situation, but generally they do)
And have more traction. A LOT more. (well depending on the situation, but generally they do)
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I still dont see why they should be given 10kg extra to play with.Comment
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do you see why walkers are given an extra 50 kg?
walking mechanisms are heavy, people wont bother using them unless for a weight advantage
tracks are heavy (heavier than wheels, lighter than walking mechanisms), people wont bother using them unless for a weight advantage :PComment
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I see why Walkers are given extra weight, as walking mechanisms are heavy (and slow in some cases)Comment
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tracks on the tv are the same weight as wheelsComment
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Tracks in real life dont get the advantage.Comment
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I see why Walkers are given extra weight, as walking mechanisms are heavy (and slow in some cases)
tracks are heavy (and slow in some cases) too
were vapourboteers, weve taken the television concept and try to bring it to a new level
, we have decided that walkers need an advantage thats different from the advantage they get on tv (150 kg as oppossed to 200 kg) and by the same means we have decided that tracks deserve an advantage
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Gabriel II - the redone stats are fine by me, some people may be picky on a few things but cross that bridge when you come to it.
Brutalis 1.0 - again, the remade stats are better. FRA Rules do not permit the use of Nitrogen or pneumatics above 1000psi so be careful there. What voltage are your motors running at? I presume 24v€¦ What are your skirts made of? How many wheels do you have? You could add things such as the turning circle and how you can self-right as well.
Liam: I think you have proved with the Challenge Belt that you aren€™t that bad at writing and can organise and hold a tournament. Going on to a small tournament sounds like a good idea once you are done with Challenge Belt. 24 robots may be a little ambitious; I would go for either 8 or 16 and build your way up. But you make the decision. Feel free to start a new thread for it once the Challenge Belt is done.
You seem to have the right idea and most importantly of all you are listening to advice. Well done, you should be a welcome edition if you can keep it up. And thank you for the complements on starting this thread. I€™m happy to see it€™s doing a good job.
Weight Bonuses: Personally, I do not support the changes in the rules only allowing walkers 150kg and letting tracked vapourbots have 110kg. I can see why they have been made, but do not believe they should have been implemented.
Just because tracked robots are slower is not a reason for giving them extra weight. If I had a 5mph wheeled vapourbot, does that mean I could get extra weight as well? Being heavier and having more traction certainly aren€™t reasons for having a bonus.
Walkers were given double the weight limit to encourage them. If you built an innovative walking robot, you had the luxury of having a weight bonus. This was not only to encourage them but also to allow them to have more protection. Aaron combined these two elements perfectly with MDU by protecting the vulnerable drive by a big defensive and offensive weapon. You could argue that the bonus could be given to tracks because they are also more vulnerable than wheels. But I don€™t see tracked robots as innovative as walkers.
Providing that extra 10kg allows slightly more protection for tracks and encourages people to use them. Personally I do not see anything wrong with shufflers, although I agree that giving them 200kg would be unfair. At the same time 100kg would also be unfair because they do in fact walk. Therefore 150kg would be the logical choice for everyone to use.
There is no reason what so ever why vapourbot walkers have to be 150kg rather than 200kg. I don€™t think I€™ll ever understand this decision. I also can€™t believe that people are claiming the Anarchy/Scuttle styled system is no longer classed as a true walker. But that is a story for another day€¦
That€™s my opinion anyway.
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Thanks much, AJ
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Fair enough rant Andy, lemme say how I look at this.
This is how it went down:
The hosts of Robot Wars decided they wanted to see more walkers in the competition, thus they allowed walkers to have 100 kg more to play with, right?
Forget all the walking mechanisms are heavier and legs are slower crap, in the end it simply came down to the fact that the hosts wanted to encourage walkers, since nobody was making them. Mentorn stepped in and gave walkers a weight advantage...
Now skip over to us vapourboteers, Mentorn isnt involved AT ALL. WE host our own tournaments, and WE make the rules. Were living in a world of our own so to speak. And if the host of, say, Mechanical Noise (which would be myself) observes a decline of the ammount of tracked robots being made (just like that other host, Mentorn, observed a decline of walkers), why shouldnt this host step in and do the same for tracks as Mentorn did for walkers?Comment
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Youve hit the nail on the head MartijnComment
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Wait until June if you want to see Walkers promoted...
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Walkers are being promoted all the time, and Gary Lineker is getting a lot of money for it
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So......predictable.....Comment
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Well, I am a stubborn git and am keeping my tracked bots weights at 110kg.
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