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  • #31
    Nanoflex

    Ahh fair enough then Paul

    Well then it would seem obvious to test this against 4mm pieces of other material then.
    I realise this isnt a spinner test, but its a fairly simple (and repeatable) test that can be done. If you want to test it with a spinner, you need to find a way to anchor the material down or you wont get a sensible result.

    Only suggested this as propping a piece of material up against a wall and driving into it seemed fairly simple, and I can be certian that Storm II will hit it at the same angle, at the same speed each time.

    Ed
    http://www.teamstorm.comhttp://www.teamstorm.com

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    • #32
      Nanoflex

      if it is of any help (never started a sentence with 4 two letter words before!)

      I would be willing to attach each of said metal to my middleweight on different sides. If a spinner such as shredder wishes to then test each material in turn, they are welcome to. this is not a challenge to shredder, this is an offer of a machine (which can have ballast added to simulate 100kg if required) for specific tests once the main competion at enginuity is over. The 4 pieces of material would need to be delivered to me at least 8 days before the event to give me time to attach them, as I am a very busy bunny that week.

      if Paul/Ed/Sam/Chris would like to discuss this option, the offer is there to catastrophically test these materials on a well built, solid chassis.

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      • #33
        Nanoflex

        im up for that james, I for one want to see what this material is like!

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        • #34
          Nanoflex

          Thank you all,

          So how do we retain it for both tests? You cant drill it as its too hard, welding is out because of the laminations and adhesive.

          Paul

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          • #35
            Nanoflex

            pretty hard to use for a robot if u cant dril or weld it!

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            • #36
              Nanoflex

              Im sure you can drill it. Suspect youd just have to take it very slowly with an appropriate bit, and use plenty of coolant as you go

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              • #37
                Nanoflex

                Spark eroder?

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                • #38
                  Nanoflex

                  Take it slow, flood it with coolant, and use a cobalt drill. If that doesnt do it (and Id be surprised) then water jet cutting is probably the way to go. I would guess its been heat treated, so laser-ing it, and I would guess spark eroding, wouldnt do it any favours.

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                  • #39
                    Nanoflex

                    Wed be more than happy to host that, quite possibly on the Friday night as we presently have that earmarked as a testing session anyway.

                    Drop us a line and keep us informed.

                    Sam
                    http://www.robotcrusade.comhttp://www.robotcrusade.com

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                    • #40
                      Nanoflex

                      Chris, Nanoflex when supplied in its virgin state has a hardness something like Hardox 400. You can drill, cut, weld, bend it etc. When you have finished, you then bake it at 450 Deg C to take the hardness over 600. The test piece was specifically a laminate for the purposes of testing it as a bullet proof shield. It has already been baked and on top of that plasma treated making it very hard (how hard?) and tough. Nanoflex is not a carbon based steel like Hardox but more like a 304 stainless steel.

                      I will make a mild steel picture frame to go around it that could then be bolted or welded in position.

                      Thank you Sam, that is appreciated.

                      BTW, Sandvik are keen to see how their material performs in these tests.

                      Paul


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                      • #41
                        Nanoflex

                        But am I right to assume that normal Nanoflex doesnt come as a bonded laminate? As far as Ive heard, its supplied in sheets like every other metal?

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                        • #42
                          Nanoflex

                          sounds good paul could well be the next (super material)

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                          • #43
                            Nanoflex

                            Christian, it is supplied in strips to a typical max width of 500mm. It can also be supplied as a high tolerance (h9) finish tube for use as axials, piston rods etc. The laminate piece I have was all that was available at short notice.

                            Chris, I hope so because I am keen to be able to supply a suitable material for armour. I have been tempted towards Hardox, Ti is simply too expensive. If Nanoflex lives up to expectations then we could see it as a cost effective alternative to Ti, it could even be superior. Personally, I want an armour to improve the chances of withstanding more frequent contests with spinners.

                            Paul

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                            • #44
                              Nanoflex

                              Ok,
                              I do have a full professional (can never get the spelling right!) workshop, but if its too hard to mill or drill, its too hard!

                              If you can ensure any samples supplied for testing are the same approx size (what size are we talking by the way?) I can uniformly armour the middleweight, and might as well put it through a full weekend of fighting/hammering. Might have to give it to someone else to drive on Saturday though as Im working. Friday Saturday night, and Sunday is fine for me so organize it how you want Ill fit in with you, just give me a week with the material ready to weld on to be sure it doesnt come off the robot. Ill cut it back off after if you want it back.

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                              • #45
                                Nanoflex

                                Theres something wrong with the forum under this topic, look at the number of posts in the archive? The first one is normal, with 10 posts, but the other ones?

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