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**wazio** · 4 October 2005, 23:20

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So am I to understand that alot of the big flippers in the UK have no actual hard connection between the arms and the cylinder? Makes sence I guess. It would keep the ram from bending and if the arm did get bent, it would still work.

I made a simple paintbrush picture of what my arm will look like (on profile now). I have the center of the ram 8 Away from the center of the pivot. From the tip of the arm to the middle of the pivot is 25. The ram is parallel to the arm.

Dose this sound like a good placement? Comments and advice are very welcome.

Also kinda for woody here. A firend of mine is thinking about making a clone of this at LP, I have sent him the e-mails that I saved.

**leorcc** · 5 October 2005, 04:58

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With so much power to spare, id place the ram further back.

**wazio** · 5 October 2005, 07:41

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Woops, Mis Calc.. The tip to end legnth is 16 and I will place the ram 5 back.

That placement sound ok to yall? I will have a pic of my rough CAD later.

~Chad

**wazio** · 10 October 2005, 18:12

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Mario has started to make my cylinder, with some luck he will be able to ship it Friday. So then it will get to me in like a month! :-p We took the size down to 70x80.

In other news I have changed my mind on the type of system that I will use. I will go with something alot more simple for my first time. I am going to use a system just like Cutlet from the lambsey team. Something simple like that will make for an easy build. I think I should get a 10 flip with that. 16 arm, with the cylinder 3.5 back.

So a question. What tanks do you guys usually use? I would assume a paintball tank, but are some brands lighter than others?

~Chad

**woody** · 10 October 2005, 19:42

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Small fire extinguishers or paintball bottles are favourite over here in the UK.

I dont think theres a favoured lighter weight bottle.

**blazerbotics** · 10 October 2005, 20:15

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nearly everybody uses 600g bottles. weigh about a kilo empty.

**wazio** · 11 October 2005, 03:33

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I found this page.

http://www.whitewolfairsmithing.com/cci%20parts.htmhttp://www.whitewolfairsmithing.com/cci%20parts.htm

This looks to be just what I need! The 22oz tank is ALOT lighter than the 20oz regular paintball tank. I will just need to get an On/off Valve for it.

~Chad

**woody** · 11 October 2005, 07:33

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Ummm ....... What 22 oz tank?
I can see a 22 cubic inch tank ....... I think thats about 9 oz of Co2.
A 600g or 20oz tank is 50 cubic inches.... so the tank youve found is approx 1/2 the volume and therefore 1/2 the weight.

Woody

**woody** · 11 October 2005, 17:37

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Link for weights and specs on various sizes.......their 20 oz cylinder is 1.5 lbs

http://www.catalinacylinders.com/http://www.catalinacylinders.com/

http://www.all4paintball.com/detail.asp?pid=84019

(Message edited by woody on October 11, 2005)

**wazio** · 17 October 2005, 06:01

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Cylinder on its way. Tanks are here, Valve is here.. All I really need to do is order my fittings and hose. What do you all usually use? And what size is the top of a paintball tank? I need to get a T for it and I am not sure what size. I am going to use a mix between .5 hose and 1/4 hose.. Comments, tips, suggestions, links.. all would be good! Thanks!

**wazio** · 17 October 2005, 06:12

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5/8-18UNF-2B Is a tank top size... Nevermind

But still cant find good hose that will take the 3000PSI of a FP system. Anybody have some extra that they would box up and send to the US? No, not for free!

~Chad

**woody** · 17 October 2005, 07:11

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3000 p.s.i. !!!

750 psi is around the normal pressure for co2.

Heres a source for your 1/4 tube and fittings .

http://www.newageindustries.com/nylon12.asphttp://www.newageindustries.com/nylon12.asp

OR

http://www.airsoldier.com/fittings/index.shtmlhttp://www.airsoldier.com/fittings/index.shtml

Id suggest that you try and pipe up the cylinder valve and tank in solid.

Heres a link to Paul Coppers site.. ( Technobots ).

The pics should give the general idea.

http://www.technobots.co.uk/M2XT/M2XT-Home/M2XT_Build/Custom_Ram/custom_ram.htmlhttp://www.technobots.co.uk/M2XT/M2XT-

Home/M2XT_Build/Custom_Ram/custom_ram.html

(Message edited by woody on October 17, 2005)

**wazio** · 24 October 2005, 05:12

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Anybody know where I can find a 1/2BSP (or whatever your standard thing is) to a 1/2 NPT fitting? Marios cylinder has that, which I cant seem to find. . .

**woody** · 24 October 2005, 06:38

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Tap the ram 1/2 NPT .........our 1/2 BSP .825 - 14 tpi and is close to your 1/2 NPT.. .838 - 14 tpi

**woody** · 24 October 2005, 08:00

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Adaptors here....http://mdmetric.com/prod/R631/MetricConversion-steel-pg1.htmhttp://mdmetric.com/prod/R631/Metric...-steel-pg1.htm