IBC help

[aliboy]

Hi i just got my IBC (thanks Geoff) and absolutely thrilled but I have a few questions
1:What do i do with that long piece of 10 or so wires connected in a strip?
2:Say i wanted the FLIP function how do wire up the controller to do that
3: On the paper i got from featherweights.org it say that i should add a 60amp fuse in the supply to the IBC any one else dne this ? does it work?

Ali
P.S im usally on msn messenger

[Guest]

IBC help

All the answers to your questions are in the instruction book, which should have been provided with the IBC. If you havent got one, it is available on the manufacturers here - http://www.robowars.org/docs/ibc-docs-v0.1.pdfhttp://www.robowars.org/docs/ibc-docs-v0.1.pdf

From the manual:
quote:

#1 = +12v - This pin will provide a stable 12v output from the switch-mode regulator, regardless of
the battery input voltage. Do not attach devices that use more than 300ma. Small relays and
remote-power LED€™s (with a suitable resistor) can be powered from here.
#2 = AUX High - An €œOpen Collector to Ground€ output that will activate [internally connect to
ground (-)] when the €œAUX1€ Servo input Joystick is more than 30% €œForward€. This output can be
used to ground one side of a relay-coil to trigger weapons. The maximum current is 300ma. Use an
intermediate relay if you require more current than this.
#3 = AUX Low - The same as AUX High, but activates when the AUX1 input is more than 30%
€œbackwards€
#4 = +5v - This pin provides a regulated 5v output from the onboard 5v regulator, regardless of
battery voltage. Do not attach hi-current devices to this pin. Suitable for small relays or LED€™s (with a
suitable resistor) only.
#5 = FLIP Input - an input that tells the controller to reverse its direction and steering controls if
the robot is turned upside down. This can either be connected to a tilt-switch that grounds the input
when the bot is inverted, or to either of the AUX High or Aux Low outputs for remote control of the flip
function from the radio transmitter (if the 3 rd channel is not required for weapons). Do not exceed 5v
on this input. FLIP is active when grounded (0v).
#6 = Ground (Gnd) - Earth return point and ground reference for the Aux and FLIP inputs and
Outputs. This should be used for any auxiliary connections rather than relying on the main power
earth, since heavy current surges through the main cables can cause voltage fluctuations on the
main earth point.

A 60A fuse is a fair precaution, though a smaller one may be an option, depending on what youre running off it.

[aliboy]

IBC help

I know thatt but where do i put the wires that the options i have selected go?

[geoff]

IBC help

Alistair,
e-mail me discribing exactly what you want to do with the IBC and I will see if I can tell you the easy way to do it.
Geoff.
teamscorpion@aol.com

[woody]

IBC help

The 3rd servo input from your transmitter controls pin 2 and 3.

Connect a relay between pin 1 and 2 or 1 and 3 for weapons functions.

A flip function maybe obtained by connecting pin 2 OR 3 to pin 5 the flip control is now from your transmitter ..... or as stated in the literature you can connect a tilt switch between 5 and 6 and your bot will automatically decide which way up it is .

I think thats right ....

[geoff]

IBC help

Yep, thats it woody..Only I have found that using a tilt switch is somewhat unreliable due to the splash efect you get from the mercury in the switch under heavy impact sending random flip signals to the IBC.

[aliboy]

IBC help

i understand now

[aliboy]

IBC help

Do i use the little wires that came with the ibc to wire up the AUX1 OUT

[geoff]

IBC help

Yes, you solder the wires to the supplied pins and mount the pins into the plastic conector then plug that onto the aux pins on the main board. If all you want to do is use the flip then just connect a loop of wire bteween pin 5 and pins 2 OR 3. If you are unsure about how the aux 1 pins function e-mail me for advice as it is possable to do some damage to the IBC if you get it wrong.
Geoff.

[aliboy]

IBC help

Thanks for that geoff but i think it should of been explained more in the manual as it may not be apparent to a begginer

[team_ireland]

IBC help

I suppose geoff is the best person to ask here.

Is the control of the ibc better than that of the vantec you used to use in Scorpion Jr?

Regards
Ian

[blazerbotics]

IBC help

I would say that they both are very similar, but with the Vantec you have the option to alter the ramps/curves ect (although all ours are running on the factory defaults).

http://www.blazerbotics.co.ukwww.blazerbotics.co.uk

[geoff]

IBC help

Ian,
I havent used an IBC in Scorpion Jr. yet, but I have used both in Pillow Torque. As for which is better, my personal view is there is very little difference in overall quality of control. Although as Alan says, you do have the option of changing the ramps and curves on the Vantec, I have also found the default setting (fast ramps & expo. steer) is about as good as you will ever need.
The IBC is a true linear mix (equal throttle and steer curves and wickedly fast ramps) which is VERY precise. In a 4WD machine such as Pillow Torque the IBC gives very good results, but the linear mix and very fast ramps can make the throttle feel slightly twitchy and the steering feel a little clinical but you do get used to it very quickly. The Vantec on the other hand with its expo. steering curves and slightly slower ramps does have a softer feel. (You can program the Vantec with a true linear mix if you prefer it). The IBC does have the advantage of an onboard BEC to run your RX and a flip function that reverses the throttle input if you machine can run either way up and you also get 2 switched outputs for weapon control. You dont get any of those on the Vantec. I have found that the fail safe software on the IBC is VERY sensitive (no bad thing) so you do need a good radio set up and well suppressed motors or the IBC can fail safe without warning. The Vantec is a little more forgiving of the odd bad radio signal but is still more than good enough to pass any tech check.
Hope this is of some help.

Geoff.

[knightrous]

IBC help

The IBC is a lot easier to use if your using a old 2ch style radio with one stick for throttle and one for steering. Quite a few guys over here are using wheel radios and they seem to have brilliant controll over those using single stick controlls.

[glen]

IBC help

ah yes i am one of those people with the wheel radio

just being able to control each axis seperately means awesome control over the twitchy single sticks.

but i think your better off buying a radio that can adjust the things like dead rates, epa, exponential and you can set up most things to drive however you like.

but i do agree with the IBCs failsafe twitchyness. but opto-isolating the servo leads works a treat for fixing that.