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  • Re: Graupner motors

    i have got my Argos drills now
    wahoo.
    what will i need to do to them?
    are there any tutorials of how to do this as i have a very bad reputation of taking rings to bits and it not working.
    thanks

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      i have found ellis's tutorial.
      thanks

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        ok so now i have my motors.
        they still have the torque changer bit on them which i think will be fine on max torque.
        tomorrow i will start on the mounts (i have found some oak yay)
        but i also have an old bosch drill that is 14.4v
        what i thaught is that i can run the 12v argos drills off 14.4v so theyre nice and fast.
        oly problem is that they dont hold charge.
        is there a way i cam cycle them so they will hold better charge (should i store them in the fridge?)
        oh yeah and it will all be made from 9-18mm plywood (because we have loads left) and a pine, oak and aluminium angle pieces which im sure will be almost overkill (if you doubt me wait till its built)
        thanks
        archie

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        • Re: Graupner motors


          can't tell if trolling....

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          • Re: Graupner motors

            trolling?
            http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 535AAMpX69
            i do as you say haz hmm.
            do you want a picture?
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            • Re: Graupner motors

              you should be able to remove that torque limiter they normally have 2 screws, undo them then remove the spring and lock the gearbox using grub screws - the tutorial you mentioned im sure will cover this in more detail

              the batteries if your talking about the drill batteries those wont be much good but if they are new should hold they charge (bearing in mind they will be 1200mah cells, ie not very high in robot uses)

              if you have an itelligent charger then you could try and cycle them but it probably wont do much for them, upgrade now and save hassle later......and dont put them in the fridge.........never ever heard that idea before

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                got that from an old robot book
                but it should be ok with the torque thing on will it?

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                  It's harder to mount the motors without removing it and you won't get the full power from the motors with them on.
                  I think the fridge thing is for storing certain batteries if your bit using them for ages to stop them losing their capacity.

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                  • Re: Graupner motors

                    If you're overvolting, even by a little, and you slam the throttle on, it's possible you'll make the torque things just slip. They're pretty simple to deal with. They don't have to be grub screws; any 5mm screw will do.

                    As for the drill batteries, you may know we went that route and whilst they worked, they were far from great. The power to weight and size ratio is pretty bad, in truth. They got incredibly hot, each cell actually only took about 1Ah, and their power output was poor. Something like this will save a lot of hassle: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-3700mAh-S ... 474wt_1396, and for the build quality and cost, it's worth it.

                    That pack can put out 30amps, fine for 2 drills, pushing it for 4. If the first stage of gears in your drills are plastic I wouldn't particularly recommend overvolting or making masses of current available to them anyway, i.e., with more powerful batteries. Chances are they'll strip.

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                    • Re: Graupner motors

                      I managed too strip metal gears in a drill at 18v, but you could be ok at 14.4

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                      • Re: Graupner motors

                        You stripped metal gears in a drill gearbox? I call BS on that

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                          We quite badly damaged several metal gears in drill gearboxes whilst in the UK.

                          Edit: http://s1088.photobucket.com/albums/i32 ... 012402.jpg

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                          • Re: Graupner motors

                            I've done the same, a few teeth on each gear tend to get chipped off rather than stripping the whole thing. In the last stage of course, and in overvolted drills.

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                              Exact same happened too me, few teeth broke. Maybe stripping the gear wasnt the beat word but it happened

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                              • Re: Graupner motors

                                what do i do now?
                                do the screws go where the bearings were or is it in the top?
                                thanks
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