featherweight flipper systems

[rob]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

This seems more interesting

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Is this the one Danjr1

[Laser]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

jonny copy the number and paste it in the search if you are having problems

[Laser]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

thats the one rob

[Thunder arrow]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

I have one like that but not tested

[Shakey]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

So my understanding of CO2 HP systems is coming along well but there are a few things I would like to ask.

I know the rules state 1000psi but is CO2 able to be held at that pressure when it liquidises around 850psi?
Do featherweights normally regulate this down, if so are buffer tanks common? And also what size Buffer tanks.
I have seen quite a FW's use paintball tanks which seem okay on thei pressure rating but what would you say is a suitable size (Providing a standard ish ram of around 60mm bore and 100-150mm stroke length)?

I am guessing for a normal rear hinge flipper a single action ram with some kind of spring return is the normal, and that there isn't much that can be done with the temperature drop.

[jonny]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

co2 varies on the temp on the day, on a hot day you might get 1000 psi before it liquidises, on a cold day you might get 700

[Shakey]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

Did some digging and most my questions are answered but these:

I have concluded a buffer tank is fairly sensible, but how large should it be?
Is regulating it down to 250-300psi sensible or too much?

And the most important, most people say you need adaptors to use CO2 paintball bottles, where are these available from?

[woody]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

co2 varies on the temp on the day, on a hot day you might get 1000 psi before it liquidises, on a cold day you might get 700

Did some digging and most my questions are answered but these:

I have concluded a buffer tank is fairly sensible, but how large should it be?
Is regulating it down to 250-300psi sensible or too much?

And the most important, most people say you need adaptors to use CO2 paintball bottles, where are these available from?

Size of buffer is difficult to quantify ..I've run many spreadsheet scenarios and more volume is better BUT it's a law of diminishing returns.
So ..Ummm... You must IMO have one and size... Errr...as big as is practical in your design is the best I can advise.
Your suggested pressure seems fine...perhaps a little higher.

[maddox10]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

Ram size.
All FP
Hannibalito I 32mm bore *80mm stroke
Hannibalito II 60mm bore *85mm stroke
Hannibalito III 50mm bore *75mm stroke

HP of LP.

1 of the main problems with CO2 is the fact all normal regulators don't like liquid. So, for the KISS principle, LP is a problem. The Trevor regulator (custom RW regulator, about the lightest , dependable regulator I know) doesn't suffer from liquid CO2, but doesn't regulate it either.

On the other hand, FP is a custom job, or a very expensive/heavy one. As 1000 psi pneumatics ain't off the shelf.

Buffertank size. I aim for 3times the volume of the ram. But in Hannibalito II and III I just used a customized 12oz paintball bottle. Hannibalito I uses a 2 oz steel buffer.

The 3 Hannibalito's also use a standard paintball bottle with an on/off valve, not the ones normaly seen in our events, the 20 oz bottles with a normal valve. We solve that by lugging our own filling hose, something you can buy at any serious paintball shop.
We have also a backup filling nipple, nothing more than a CO2 nut to a paintball bottle connector.

I hope that answers a few of your questions.

[Danjr1]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

How much roughly would a low powered system weigh? 2.5kg?

[beast]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

How much roughly would a low powered system weigh? 2.5kg?

a co2 bottle alone is either 1.6 kg and a 300g one weights 1.1 befor you start
i would say about 8oog

[psycho_fling]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

wow 800kg now we know why u win all the time using a system that is way over weight lol :P

[beast]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

lol 8kg LOL sorry
ps not won any thing this year!!!

[psycho_fling]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

not surprised when your losing 792kg from your flipper system, bound to affect performance

[Danjr1]

Re: featherweight flipper systems

Will have to look for a lighter weapon then! I'm already at 9kg for the bit alone!