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  • Re: RogueTwo Robots

    Update

    Happy New Year everyone! You're always best to start the year the way you intend it to continue, and for me that was in my shed building robots.

    Unfortunately I never got any work done to the tracked grabber over Christmas, mostly because I pinched the actuator for Carcinus which, after choosing to retire it, I changed my mind and decided to rebuild. Partly for demos at Scot-Bots events and partly because I didn't want my dad driving the cool tracked one

    The baseplate was shot to bits though, having been hacked up several times in various internal rejigs. So that's been remade from a piece of 8mm HDPE, as has the top panel which was previously 6mm MDF.
    As mentioned, the previous homemade M12 actuator that was in there has been taken out and replaced with an 18V GLA-S actuator. Only 50mm stroke so the claws don't close that much, but should be enough to contain most robots:



    As well as a sturdy mounting bracket at the rear, I've also made a Nylon block to fit round the front of it. This holds the whole actuator securely to the robot and makes the setup more solid than it's ever been. Those actuators are also fast!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tc6L9qpN5M

    The downside with a GLA-S actuator is that the limit switches have been removed as they don't work at higher voltages, but I'm going to have to make some up otherwise I predict much self-inflicted damage with this version. They've got a decent amount of force in them too; whether it will make much difference in the arena though I don't know!

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      like the concept and something different

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        glad to hear robotics is breaking the musical genre boundaries

        nice work

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          How much weight do you have? You could put a saw of some kind in the middle and go for something like Deadmetal! Removable so you can use it at scot bots of course.

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            Taylor Swift? Censor your listening before posting man!

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              It was only once I was inside and uploading the video that I realised how much the camera had picked up the radio. Next time I'll either turn it down or wait until a better song comes on

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                Originally posted by Eventorizon
                How much weight do you have? You could put a saw of some kind in the middle and go for something like Deadmetal! Removable so you can use it at scot bots of course.


                Not sure how much it weighs just now, but it usually comes in around the 10kg mark at most events so probably a few kilos to spare. Tempted to do an overhead saw/disc just for funsies, though it would probably be quite low down the list of priorities.

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                  quality music and quality work!

                  Looks brilliant Jamie, hope it will do well this year.

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                    Update

                    So with the UK champs announced I figured I'd start early and try and get everything out the way in plenty of time.

                    Drumroll and Cicatrix had a little bash about last weekend, where one major thing became obvious. In a head-to-head with a wedge robot (that has a nice floor-hugging wedge) Drumroll would always ride up the wedge and the teeth wouldn't hit anything. In this instance it allowed Cicatrix to push me around the arena. I reckoned the only way to beat wedgyness is to join the club. Cue a few bits of metal placement and planning:



                    As much as I'd have loved to keep the gigantic triangles, they were a bit too big to be practical. So they were cut down to size and shaped, then everything got welded up. And voila:



                    Hopefully this will help against the likes of Tiny Toon and Cobalt etc. The sides are 3mm steel and the wedge is 6mm. Quite similar to TS2's wedge in shape and looks, which I noticed seemed to work well in both last year's champs and at the Robo Challenge Awards day. Added benefits include the fact that it ties the whole front of the chassis together. Previously I knew that if a horizontal caught the inside of the uprights, the whole drum mechanism would probably get ripped out (ala Hornet 2 at Rebel Robots) so I feel a bit happier about the front end now. Probably not completely NST proof but an improvement anyhow.

                    Also finally got round to tapping and bolting the ends of the drum shaft. It's been on my to-do list longer than I can remember but now that that's bolted in, it again just holds things together a lot better.

                    Despite all that, it's still quite underweight:



                    I still need to add a couple of 6mm steel squares to the polycarb cover to try and Cobalt-proof the ESC and receiver/lipo and add a belt guard (HDPE) but that will only add a couple of hundred grams. Gonna look at either some sort of angled steel on the front to try and deflect horizontals away from the bulkheads or just some 8mm-or-so HDPE to try and minimise any NST impacts.

                    Next in line for work is Carcinus which, at a completed weight of 9.3kg (seriously, how the hell?!) has plenty of weight spare for the Dead Metal-esque saw on top that was mentioned above
                    Mainly just the wiring to do on that. Could've done it this weekend but every time I looked at it, I couldn't be bothered. Need to get my mind in the wiring zone!

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                      Scrap the wedge and run the drum as close to the ground as possible. Check my fight with beauty a couple years back at gadget show live. Better running a drum against a wedge than wedge on wedge

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                        looking good jamie, i recon youve made a gd decision with that, the scoopy bit on ts2 is what held it together after nst split my bulkhead in half

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                          Remembering how much Boner dominated that fight when you had full drive, I'd tend to agree. However I feel that for this particular size and shape of robot, the wedge will be beneficial. Though it may not be as effective as having the teeth scraping the floor, the added strength that's now there offers a bit more protection against horizontals, which is something I've wanted to do for a while.

                          There's also not a huge amount of space between the wedge and the drum teeth so even if a robot rides up it just a little, chances are I'll skelp their underside. Plus the extra resistance of the wedge running on the floor helps tame any erratic movements in the drive, which should help towards improving driving precision.

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                            Im with Gary, why not have a dead axe bolting the bulkheads together for strength? ALA 720 lol

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                              You are relying on a robot riding up on top of the wedge. One ding on the front lip of the wedge and your drum is useless against a flipper.

                              Boners drum is exposed as much as possible. I'm certainly not going to give anyone the chance of getting away from it!

                              As dave says there are other ways to increase the strength between the drum supports without putting something in front of the drum.

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                                You guys need to have a Drum-off!

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