A review of a weird annihilator. Woot anyway.

[robotwars]

A review of a weird annihilator. Woot anyway.

But Damage counts for double, ( i think )

so

Storm 2 = 19
Typhoon = 20

Very close, but typhoon wins.

Jonno

[teamchip]

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Typhoon deserved to win coz it had more females in uniform in its fan club!

Tom

[steve_c]

A review of a weird annihilator. Woot anyway.

People seem to be forgetting that Typhoons weapon stopped working a short time after the restart - normally that counts heavily (and often fatally) against a robot, why not here? Given the fight went to the judges (and the fact that Storm II took only superficial damage), surely that wouldve cost them the fight?

[storm]

A review of a weird annihilator. Woot anyway.

People are forgetting that both Typhoons weapon wasnt working due to overheating and they also lost one of their drive chains out the bottom of their robot.

But if the judges dont see it - it dont count !

Ed
http://www.stormrobot.comhttp://www.stormrobot.com

[steve_c]

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The judges didnt see that Typhoons weapon had stopped working? Dont tell me that theyre as bad as JP when it comes to spotting things...maybe that can explain all those bad decisions, heh.

Joke aside, a non-working weapon still counts against a robot, especially if it was working earlier on (no matter what caused it to stop).

[pcbore]

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Does it? Say Pussycat was fighting Diotoir. Pussycat tears into Diotoirs body for the entire fight, but the fir jams up the weapon. Does this mean Diotoir should get some damage points?

...Come to think about it, I think this fight actually happened.

[Guest]

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I think that was one of the christmas specials in series 4.

[Guest]

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how come the judges didnt spot that chain that came off typhoon before the decision was made?
(possibly the judges dont come into the arena: they just sit there in their places and imagine stuff :0)

[Guest]

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The Judges have made a hash of it once again. Storm 2 must be the only robot to definately lose a judges decision it rightfully won(Typhoon), and also to win a decision it should have definately lost (against Mute). Who cares about double double damage points? judging from the way Storm 2 owned the fight, there was only won winner!!

[fluppet]

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I wondered if that would come up (I saw the Mute fight live, and also thought Mute had it).

Mind you, Razer lost an extreme warriors decision which - Im told - they should have won against Tornado (I dont know the details of the fight, but the judges certainly made mistakes about damage inflicted). Then they (from the judges point of view) won their match against Tornado in Extreme 2 - which they clearly lost, and conceded as much.

Im sure there are others. Ive not trusted the Robot Wars judging panel since the whole Mortis/Recyclops thing. Itd be interesting to get the statistic of all the fights which have gone to the judges, and see how many the community in general agree with...

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Fluppet

[typhoon_driver]

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what would be interesting is if the judges scoring cards were made public

[team_penetrator]

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do you have the score cards gary?

i remember our match with GBH in series 2, us and GBH were able to keep our score cards, i wonder why they wont let roboters take them home any more, they make good trophies

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Carl
http://www.freewebs.com/carls-robot-pagewww.freewebs.com/carls-robot-page

[anukhet]

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Maybe because the judges scorecards mean squat against the decision of the programmes producer.

Imagine the scene in the production booth. Theyre racking their brains and pacing up and down as the fight is taking place. Decision time, decision time......time for some contraversy.

Thats my tuppence worth

[typhoon_driver]

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We werent offered the score cards and never thought to ask (we were too busy getting ready for the middleweight contest)

[steve_c]

A review of a weird annihilator. Woot anyway.

quoteMaybe because the judges scorecards mean squat against the decision of the programmes producer.

Imagine the scene in the production booth. Theyre racking their brains and pacing up and down as the fight is taking place. Decision time, decision time......time for some contraversy./quote

My thought exactly. Ever since the Roadblock/King B fight from the 2nd war, ratings have played a part in judges decisions or house robot activity (which took care of the aformentioned fight. Roadblock was in the PPZ - which meant instant defeat back then - in the clutches of Shunt, and Dead Metal came charging in to knock it free. After all, we cant have the champions dropping out before the grand final, can we?). 3rd and 5th round fights are the most vulnerable (Hypnodisc/101 anyone?), but 2nd round fights have seen plenty of it too (ie. give the weaker robot the decision so the seed gets an easier fight in the 3rd round). Examples from this war include Grim Reaper/Big Nipper (3rd round), Mantis/Kat 3 (2nd round, winner fights seed) and Judge Shred/Mute (3rd round). And of course the whole Mortis pinball incident (the biggest travesty of RW ever IMO) was done purely to set up a grudge match program.

The fact is that as long as we dont know the scoring process or stats (like Battlebots), so-called controversial decisions will always appear to be rigged in favour of whatever (seeds, celebs, crowd favourites, ratings-winners etc.) And as RW is a TV show, ratings/entertainment always comes before sport/competition.

BTW Carl: IIRC, didnt Penetrator lose in the tug-o-war and not in the battles?