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  • #16
    Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

    It still comes down to whether the EOs are prepared to take the risk at the end of the day, and that's not just related to whether it adheres to those 2-out-of-3 regulations, but also to the build quality and integrity of the weapon. I would normally be gently poking and prodding about the possibility of running low-KE spinners at events but I'm looking at it more now from an EO perspective due to the Scot-Bots stuff.

    A team such as Big Nipper could make a nice low-KE spinner satisfying those regulations and, as roboteers, we know due to the quality of their engineering it would be fine. At the same time, a rookie team could come in and also make a nice low-KE spinner meeting the regs but the build quality and integrity is more of an unknown as they're new. Either way, the EO can't be 100% sure of the safety of both teams' weapons so unless the arena can contain any potential failures, it's too much of a risk to let them run. If they did, and something happened, it cold potentially invalidate the event grading and, in turn, invalidate any chance they have of their public liability insurance covering costs.

    EDIT: What John said :P

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    • #17
      Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

      Ah yeah I remember the smidsy test.
      Fair enough, good to know, thanks for the answer

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      • #18
        Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

        The rpm, mass and diameter was to make eos aware of potentially very dangerous spinners not what defines a spinner! It would be a bold person to suggest any spinner can be run in a netted roof. It worrys me seeing some flippers in net roof as they could easily send bolts through it.

        Yes it is down to the EO what runs in their arena but that ldoesnt change what is safe and what is not. It just means if something does go wrong, and its likely it would as it has in the past, the EO would have a lot of explaining to do as its well known not to be safe.

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        • #19
          Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

          Out of interest- what was the smidsy test?

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          • #20
            Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

            Jonno what about if ripper was given immunity from the disc :-D

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            • #21
              Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

              Yeah immunity is fine !! :-)

              We ran fw spinners in netted roofs for years and it was only when discs started getting to silly speeds and people got worried. Never had an issue.

              The smidsy test was a test we ran in between two shows where we had two low powered spinners fighting, there was 0 chance of danger, but it wasn't exciting !!

              As an EO I'm bothered about entertainment and progression, disc being a risk, and that risk has to be minimal but with maximum impact on the show.

              The only way to have them, and for them to be worth it is to ban hardox, reduce the armour and allow robots to be damaged easily !!

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              • #22
                Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

                ??? I don't know of any vertical fw spinner since ive been in the sport that couldn't put something through a net roof. Only the very worst but certainly a large majority would easily put shrapnel through net.

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                • #23
                  Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

                  well we dont need to go through yet another public debate about spinners, we ran them, didnt kill anyone, when we felt it was getting dangerous we stopped.

                  Maybe one day they will come back in some form. It might just be the same day i annouce a Tv deal, and robot wars series 8, you just never know !

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                  • #24
                    Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

                    Mr Robotwars telling us what we can and cannot debate about now....For a minute there i thought it was a forum. Next you will be telling everyone they have to sign contracts to attend Robotwars like Mentorn did. But then I dont think personally it will ever be back on TV.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Spinners at Robot Wars/ Roaming Robots and Robots Live

                      Was just saying we dont need to turn this into a debate about what we did before nd if it was safe, , we are talking about the future, and the possibility of bringing them back in some form in RW and RL.

                      Get a disc to spin slowly enough it doesnt carry any safety risks.

                      Im trying to be positive here not negative and it doesnt need to turn into vendetor!

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