2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

[pressure]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

I didnt know there was no bid for the event, it does not say this on the first post, as you rightly say Shane better than nothing at all.

[swanaldo]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

There are pros and cons with the way its done. The main thing is that this was going to happen anyway as just a Roaming Robots league. For Jonno to change it and put his neck on the line yet again and put up a prize fund for it shows his commitment for the sport and a uk champs. If he didnt do it then there wouldnt be a uk champs at all. At the end of the day if teams are not able to do the champs then simply dont enter.

Jonno didnt do it this way to try and get everyone to his events and not to others. He himself supports other events.

And i was on the assumption that 2009 was going to be a good year for roboteering with all pulling together where they can for the better good. He has put a £2000 prize fund up out of his own pocket. If that isnt good enough then he may aswell just give up hadnt he.

[swanaldo]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

Jonno i dont think can post as he is on his way to kuwait. But i am sure he will reply when he is there

And i am NOT being biased

[robotwars]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

no i can post as im still at terminal 5 waiting for my flight. I have been reading with interest. All ill say is . . . . In any hobby theres different levels of peoples commitment and determination to be number 1. I dont think 4 events over a 10 month span is asking too much. Especially with the biggest prize fund to date up for grabs. I couldnt just give it away. Your other event organiser has no interest in putting up an event at their own cost. And is only doing 3 events this year. its my belief and always has that each year we need a champion. Other wise events will become boring and we loose our history for when it does get back on tv.. Each rr event will have its own competition with a winning robot where possible. if people dont want to enter the league because they cant do more than 1 event then ignore it, come along and have fun. 1 . Everyone is welcome. However there will be quite a lot i suspect which will be taking it seriously. . . . I will be. I remember when i used to have other hobbies i was at it every weekend. im not forcing anyone. Im just doing what i do best. Thinking outside the box and trying to keep things moving. John

[bbrcaz]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

Please don€™t get me wrong. I am very keen to have structured competition because that€™s what I enjoy and I think the audience do too.
The reason that we stopped doing events 5 years ago was because of the lack of competition fights going on at that time.
My enthusiasm for competition still remains the same. Evidence of this is that Barbaric Response only did one fight last year that was not competition.
A proper competition like you are planning is what I have been waiting for!

My comments only stem from the fact that 5 events is at the upper end of what I had planned to do and can do this year.

So with that said I will go and start getting the robot ready for some great competition this year.

[teamhunt]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

So, there will be a champion at each event?
Does this just count for the heavys or will it also count for the feathers?
I know the feathers have the FW Championships, but thats just one thing.
Appart from the HW league, i think there should be a mini FW league going on with that.
With there being more and more featherweights being built, i just think they should also have something to do.
But this is just my opinion.
If other think differently, then thats ok.
Matt
Team Hunt

[frag]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

so can you only have a competition fight against each opponent only once?
it would be really helpful not to be lucky enough to draw iron awe every time for a qualifier

[frag]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

sorry only overload

[frag]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

when is a robot a different robot?
how much of current alice would need to be in the refresh to make it the same robot?
do 2 that look the same count as one?
what if you cchange the weapon/armour/motors/paintjob?

[swanaldo]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

I see what you man Mark. Because you are building a new alice it wont be ready till a few events in mabee and then you will run the new one in the finals having used the current one to qualify. Is that what you mean?

Personally it wouldnt bother me at all. Knowing you are building a new robot at all is proof of your committment to the cause. I would welcome the new alice in the finals after the old one has done the work. But thats just me others might think diferent but i hope not.

(Message edited by swanaldo on January 25, 2009)

[frag]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

that would be one possible example.

another would be half way through the year there is an Iron Awe VI and Iron Awe V is sold to another team (just an example). Does IA6 loose the history of points wins or do they get the IA5 points and IA5 has to start again?

Not really a big issue over the winter tour but in a whole year?

[frag]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

should have said IA6 was completely new part way throught he year. (appologies if I have lost track of build number).

I would suggest with this scenario the team elects which bot takes the score
would not deter new builds.

Avoiding possible ill feeling by setting out the rules seems a sensible solution and would give certainty to the teams - so not a we will tell you when we see it rule.

I like the idea of a long competition - it just comes with some complications

[robotwars]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

Thats a goods point Mark,

And hopefully if people keep thinking of the problems, we can resolve them before they occur.

I think in that scenario, when one robot replaces another, as an evolution, the points can stay with the team, and the new robot gets them.

When someone starts a new robot, wih a new concept which clearly isnt an evolution then they start a fresh with the points too.

Like in rallying, if a driver wrecks his car, they build a new one and carry on. Formula 1 teams develop their cars over the year. Football teams get new players.

It can easily be compared, and i dont see it being a problem.

So you would be able to use the old one.... and then tranfer over to the new one when ready.

Good point though.

John

[robotwars]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

Not sure about feathers yet.

And you get to fight a robot twice only.

John

[beast]

2009 FRA Heavy Weight UK Championship.

so we can fight TZH twice in 1 day cool