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How much would it cost and how much work would it be to create a full HW spinner arena for events?
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
£4000 per event, and 4 events a year to make it viable.
Write off after 4 years.
Based upon volunteers to set up and break down. -
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Too much for a return on investmentComment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
For the cost to build, Not even worth considering !!
For using at an event, it would never be viable without a big sponsor.
John
Roaming RobotsComment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
I'll do some sums for you:Originally posted by kevin
The Robots live arena is 4M tall, 10M wide and 12M long.
So to cover the side walls you need
2 panels of 4m*10M + 2 panels of 4m*12M
2*(4*10)+2*(4*12)
2*40+2*48
80+96 =176 sq m
12mm thick panels are £135.82 per sq m, so £135.82 * 176 = £23,904.32
And the roof that needs to be 5mm thick panel. They are £57.18 per sq m. £57.18 *(10*12)= £57.18 * 120= £6,821.60
£23,904.32+£6,821.60 =£30,765.92
That'sthe polycarbonate for the arena grade below heavyweight spinners. Questions?Comment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
The main problem isn't the arena.
Just an example. The DRG has one in storage. It just doesn't come out, because the cost transporting and setting it up is so that the DRG can't afford to use it without a sponsor/event organiser. And that has been proven to be a very fickle issue.
It's rather how many teams can build/rebuild a heavy twice a year?
And run non spinner events in between.Comment
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I didn't know DRG had a heavyweight arena! :shock: Is it Class 1 spec?Originally posted by maddox10Comment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
No steel floor. But the rest should be on spec. Unfortunatly. It takes 2 lories to transport. And forklift to assemble.Originally posted by psychostormComment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
Just a note.
I wouldn't want anything less than 10mm polycarb on the roof to feel it was safe !
If anyone was building one, and it wasn't I'd feel very uncomfortable.
A roof will take the same impact as a side. Vertical v horizontal discs ... Same thing !!Comment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
How do the americans manage it? Combots has a 40'x40' arena so where does their money come from? They have 32 heavies at an event and we have around 20 so we are not far of in terms of numbers its just the arena... [Now awaiting the massive point I have overlooked that makes this impossible]Comment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
David Calkins bought the arena for Robogames for $250,000 but it cost double that to make. It was built for a college project but was never used. Did not ask where he got the money from....
TrevComment
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This won't happen, quite a few people won't fight tiberious because of expencive damage, and he can't smash the absulute snot out of other robots like a spinner :shock:
After a few got wrecked no one would want to risk the damage.Comment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
Whynot build an area that just supports FW spinners and HW robots with smallish discs (X-Terminator for example). I understand not having robots like Typhoon or Hypno-Disc ripping up the place, but I can't really see a FW robot tearing the arena apart single-handedly.Comment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
Silent Night - I love your idea that X-Terminator is a 'small' disk and I think highlights just the problem that approach comes with, how do you define 'small' and 'safe'.
Also on the US comparison, different business model in the US, not worth comparing like with like
Rather than trying to break the fag-packet maths down into square meters, if you do the maths using the actual panels you'd be buying (12mm for the sides and roof as an example)
Also the other thing you need to take into account is the weight of all that polycarb, each sheet of 12mm 2.4m x 1.2m weighs 45Kg with fixings.
Assuming
20 panels for two sides = 900Kg
18 panels for two ends = 810Kg
50 panels for the roof = 2250Kg
Total - 3960Kg
So your next huge cost is funding a support mechanism that can fly almost 4 tonnes (before you add any lighting or sound) of polycarbonate off the ground.
Do not under-estimate the size of the undertaking in trying to build something like thisComment
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Re: Having a full spinner safe arena - the cost & amount of
So basically we need a college with little else to do, to make one and then for a rich roboteer to buy it at half the price?
I don't see what the issue is................Comment
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