The Final at Brentwood event 2009

[swanaldo]

Has anyone please got a vid of the final between Thor vs Iron Awe. It was the worst desision since robot wars began and yet no-one seems to have it on vid......someone must have it. Can you either e-mail it if you are too embarrassed to post it on here or just post it on here. Jason is very keen to see it as he cant remember the fight. Roboteers know what i mean when your in the zone you cant remember.

So PLEASE can someone either send it to me or post it.

Thanks

[teamhunt]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

I think i may have the final, as i did record nearly all of brentwood :P
I'll take a looksie through my footage to see if i have...

[ian_humphrey]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

Hi Shane,

I filmed that fight, I'll stick it on a disc and bring it to Reading.

Ian

[swanaldo]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

PM sent mate....thanks

[ian_humphrey]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

PM sent in reply

[swanaldo]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

DVD format mate please and thanks again

[ian_humphrey]

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It's on it's way, your now at the mercy of the Post Office.

[swanaldo]

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many thanks mate

[swanaldo]

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Thanks for the dvd mate. Lovin the cover. Drinks on me next time we meet out.

Now as for the fight. I dont really know why i am going on about this. I still feel like we were robbed of a trophy and the first real big event we have won. I am not asking for the trophy to be handed over to us or anything but i feel that even if some recognise Thor as the winner it will mean a lot to us. I will be posting the vid soon and you can make your own mind up who the real victor is. Please dont assume have got it in for team Iron Awe cos i havent. They are a great team with a great robot. But to be awarded the event cos iron awe flipped out of the pit is still beyond me. Not bitter or owt just want the moral victory.

Vid will follow shortly

[swanaldo]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a813ojc-qA

[kodster]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

Okay, now that's just utter bull. Self-righting from the pit was never allowed in the first place. That's a solid fact right there, and a solid loss for Iron Awe.

Seriously, I really like Iron Awe but they did not deserve that win.

[robotwars]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

errrm

at a risk of getting shot....

Ive been a judge, and know how hard it is to make a quick decision... and to me i DONT think it is so clear cut !!!

Ok so iron awe went in the pit, but after 10 seconds he's out again, and it was entertaining to see him get out... throughout the fight he was flipping robots well into the air.. and thor did struggle to selfright after a flip by iron awe... and its axe was pretty lame by the end.

ok so iron awe lost drive to one side, but he was still mobile, .

But then thor did immobilize the other robots.

I will watch it agian tomorrow, and score it.

But on my first 2 views,, can see that thor probably should have won on points, but can see how iron awe could get it.

Certainly looks different than when i saw it live... then... i thought thor was defo badly robbed.


John

[widow_twanky]

Re: The Final at Brentwood event 2009

I seem to recall the previous discussions on rules going that you get ten seconds to get out of the pit, and you can hear the comentary with Angela saying 'how long were they in there for?' so fine I have no problems with that part.

Thor was agressive and in general desrved the win, but when you park your robot up at the side with ten seconds to go and don't engage for however long you get exposed to these type of decisions.

I said to Swanny at the time that I didn't see what else you have to do (disable two robots and partially disable the other) but watching the video I suppose what you have to do is engage. If you watch Iron Awe at the end they make a point of saying 'HEY WE'RE STILL IN THIS!!' by flipping Mega Mouse. Thor is parked up at the side ten seconds early. (Did they actually refuse to fight or stop trying?)

Not saying it should be that way, but that's what I think cost Thor the fight. Thor did enough and then lost on a silly tactical mistake.

Mind you there were a few dodgy decisions in that event. Not sure how the judges could spend five minutes deciding whether HYDRA won when everyone else was in the pit??

Andy

[swanaldo]

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correct me if i am wrong mr John but in a comp fight if you are pitted you are out. Thats the norm is it not. and we were still from 7 seconds thinking we had won.....

Thor immobalised maelstrom
Thor Immobalised Mega Mouse
Iron awe flipped a total of 7 times...no matter how good it looked
Thor got a total of 23 hits
Iron Awe flipped Thor 3 times
Thor hit ironawe 5 times
Iron Awe was PITTED
Iron Awe lost drive toward the end another reason we backed of with 7 and i say 7 seconds to go

Simple desision to me as a judge.....and 1 of them was DRUNK

[robotwars]

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yes mr shane i will correct you. If you are in the pit you have 10 seconds to get out of it . Been the rules for years.

As i said before yes i think thor should have won but i don't think its as clear cut.

As a judge it happens very quick and i don't think in that fight thor was as aggressive as it could have been. You've been able to watch it a few times. A judge doesn't.