Tech Checkers Conference and training day

[beast]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

all we have to do now is build 8 beautys and well take the heaveys on lol but we need 8 drivers tho

[Mouldy]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

you can turn up with a 106kg heavy if you wish. but the EO can decide to weigh you.. and if your over, they can choose to tell you to put it back in the car.. is it worth the risk? If you turn up applying to the rules then theres no problems. The feather everyone is talking about was weighed at home, and he believed it to be abit over... but bought it along for testing none the less.. when he realised how heavy it was, he withdrew himself for the rest of the weekend as a jesture of sportsman-ship.

Be sportsman like, play to the rules. It keeps everyone happy.

[john]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

ye jonno he showed me the video

wasnt a competition tho and since then its done rubbish! apart from 1 gd fight at robots live

time for a new 1

[beast]

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well its can be finished for sunday but your not there to drive it LJ

ps its a cross between Envey and u know who may get it working but ill try but u gotot help me lol get off that dam pc and get in the garage

[john]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

i charge £10 an hour for my help

and can u not spell envy

[john]

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gotta get new 1 underweight aswel

cant fight in no whiteboards if its 2 heavy

i dont want no moaning

[geoff]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

Adrain,
To clarify, I was refering to any FRA sanctioned championship, I.E. UK / European / World (one day!)

[babeth]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

The main thing is still... if you build a fw of 13.6 kg that is well protected or you build a fw of 15 kg that is even better protected, at the end of the day you will still have damage and it will still cost you. The frame will still be bent, the armour will still have rents, there will always be something requiring repairs. If you need a plate of hardox on it in order to have it protected then you need to find the weight somewhere in the rest of the robot. What cant you understand about that ? Oh, you want to keep your robot pristine for the really serious fights, the ones of the championships ? Dude, people buy those tickets in order to see your robot get damaged. Not in order to watch a metal flea-circus.

If the ferry wasnt so darned expensive we would come over every weekend AND FIGHT. And repair.

People, the sport is about damage, the inflicting thereof and thus the equal chance of having it inflicted on your own precious creations as well. Moaning about how it can get damaged in a fun-fight ? For me even the fun-fights are serious. Even in a fun-fight your robot risks to become thoroughly smashed to pieces. And moaning about prize-money ? What is the chance of winning it ? I mean, there are usually 20-ish guys each yearning and competing for that prize. I feel prize-money harms the sportsmanship, it takes the fun away because everyone is going seriously for the bucks. I hate that. Sport should be fun.

In the end we have an expensive hobby. Ive been a student too once, with rather expensive hobbies back then, and I absolutely do know the value of money and time. Right now we are hard-working bills-paying wage-slaves and we still find the money and time to build and repair our robots.
Within the weight-limits.
At times even UNDER the weight-limits.

[leorcc]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

I still say that in order to have a level playing field we should only allow robots that are within the weight limit. If a robot shows up and it turns out that it is overweight, it should be up to the roboteers if they will allow the robot in the arena for whiteboard fights. Kenny showed up with a robot that is way overweight and if someone, just 1 person, had objected the EOs crew should not have allowed Kenny to use it. In any case it should have been made clear in advance to everyone.

But Kenny should be given a chance to at least test his robot on that day, only with opponents that are brave enough to enter to help out with tests.

Weighing in all robots before entering the arena is a good idea. Specially in the feathers it is a pretty easy operation, put a scale next to the arena entrance. Its also the best way, so that we never have the discussion wether the bottle is full or empty. Thats the weight you are going in the arena with, it must not exceed 13.6kg.

There is a point that will come up of course, the scale is being used to weigh the co2 bottles. But a second scale should not break the bank, even if it is just a regular household scale.

(Message edited by leo-rcc on February 11, 200

(Message edited by leo-rcc on February 11, 200

[ady]

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i understand testing is needed but opponents had no idea that the robot was overweight i couldnt see any scales anywhere tbh. i was told that it was a little overweight and that could easily be sorted, i remember this as it looked scary and i really wanted to know if it was going to be in the compeititon or not.

(Message edited by promo robots on February 11, 200

[swanaldo]

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adrian what would have happened if your robot got flipped by the arena flipper and hit the roof and hit the floor then bounced oota. ok it was flipped out by kennys robot, (which is overweight but looking good if i may say so) the same damage could have been caused by beauty flipping it out or mabee the arena flipper.

[grant_ploughbot]

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My view is that all robots should not go over the limit in any way for competitions, white boards is between the roboteers if they want to fight the over-weight robot.
For smaller competitions that are not full combat (most events) would be a little bit leaniant on the weight, but only by a matter of grams - but any big competition, especially with prize money and titles to be won then if your 1g over weight it needs to go.

[john]

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grants said it

should close this thread - everything is just getting repeated

and no offence but from what i can see its the people who go to 10+ events a year who are saying they dont like damage every event - we have bin there done that got the receipts , got the broken roboteqs, sidewinders, wattys , motors, the lot! and it has cost 1000s, we have had nearly 20 roboteqs over the yrs - prob about 5 sponsored but that doesnt matter - if we went to 3 events a yr we wouldnt have spent anywhere near as much as we have

and prize money makes the event something more to fight for - i won alot last yr and hopefully will do this year - my tops cost £30-50 each - england is one expensive place to live - so i need abit extra from a hobby to pay for all my rubbish - even tho my dad robs most of it!

money makes the world spin round

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[leorcc]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

Well actually, this thread was not so much about prize money or overweight robots, but about the tech check conference.

To sum it up:

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A read through the 2008 build rules with particular emphasis on the changes for 2008 concerning Radio rewrite to incorporate 2.4 GHZ
Very much worth doing, it makes the rules a lot more readable.
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and to clarify pneumatic rule changes for pressure relief valves and their requirements.
As it now stands, low pressure systems where the regulator is directly attached to the bottle do not need to have a 1000psi Pressure relief device fitted. That is imho a good thing. Do note that if the regulator is not directly attached to the bottle but fitted with a hose or pipe first, a high pressure PRD is still mandatory.

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It would appear that some machines still ignore these safety considerations despite some being given safety equipment by event organisers.
That to me is really silly, being given the tools and even then not doing it.
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A collective decision by all the event organiser robot tech checkers endorsed by the FRA executive from TODAY, will no longer sign off as fit for arena use robots that do not satisfy the build rules in respect of

Cradles

Sharp edge protection

Power light fitment.
These things are so easy to do, I still dont know why this is such a problem.

Any thoughts, comments, defences as to why people still use a hammer or a roll of gaffa tape as a carrying cradle?

[beast]

Tech Checkers Conference and training day

I agree with all of the above BUT not the power light!
why
well if a power light breaks does not work etc, this means the robot is safe NO if the link is in it should be taken the robot is alive but when (talking about beauty) has no panels there is no place to put one realy and it breaks every time,

so i cannot see if a light is fitted or not it makes it any safer my penny for thought

BUT I WILL BE HAVING A LIGHT SOMEWHERE OK