2008 UK championships

[john]

2008 UK championships

ye it might have been a fix to who was on the show or not but they still have to go to a trail

for series 4 we went and won both our fights but we didnt get on

even tho that was a fix there was still a trial to get on and part of that trial must have been to see if the robot could put on a good show and if it looks good , and typhoon looks great and proved that by winning the series , they also new what typhoon could do as they had made a middleweight or a feather for the series b4? so it was a daddy version

[ady]

2008 UK championships

i think you cant compare this to tv really.

[john]

2008 UK championships

well u just did

but ye i no wot u mean

[team_mayhem]

2008 UK championships

can feathers attend this or does it depend on how many heavys apply

[swanaldo]

2008 UK championships

dont know wether to sleep in my car or tent it. mabee john bell will let me crash on his caravan bungalow floor next to his stash of beer.

[robotwars]

2008 UK championships

Well to answer some of your questions..

The arena / pits will be under a big marquee so it doesn€™t matter what the weather is dong outside, we can still run in the dry. Im sure it will be sunny though... it normally is !!

The signups will be a first come first served basis with preference to the seeds, yes Matt feathers will be allowed to attend.

If you camp with us, and arrive on the Friday then you do miss the majority of the traffic.

I think sometimes its easy for roboteers to be very vocal about their opinions, but don€™t necessarily consider all of the factors which lead us to make choices.

You need to understand just how much it costs to put an event on, let alone make any money, The breakeven point on any event is higher than most would consider, and it is very easy to NOT make money.

The UK champs is the big event, therefore to host it you need a minimum of 12 hours, or 6 shows which is equivalent to 3 days in an indoor venue, and then add your prize money, and accommodation.

So treble the venue costs compared to normal, add the prize money, add the accommodation bill for both crew and roboteers and you end up with an event which IMHO will not make any money in the current climate.
That€™s why I opted to host it at RIAT where everything is provided.


And then of course you have to consider the quality of the show, if people are paying good money to see a show, they want just that€¦. Lets be honest the first rounds of the UK champs can be quite tedious, €œ flip a robot, it gets stuck, wait for 10 seconds, end of fight €œ It isn€™t until you get to the semi finals where the competition really hots up.

The FRA made a vote which was 5 - 2, maybe you should ask them why they opted for Roaming Robots, or even ask Robots Live what was in their proposal that they didn€™t get it?

Other than that€¦here€™s an idea why don€™t roboteers put their hands in their pockets, and help with the event if they want it so badly, I don€™t think many will volunteer, but are very easy to expect it all for free.

Consider this€¦. Event Organisors don€™t make any money€¦.. or they get fed up, what happens€¦ they give up€¦. then what ?

Food for thought I hope.

I for one am looking forward to the event, and I know a lot of pople are too. At the end of the day everyone has a choice whether to attend or not, but of course hope they attend because they want to.

John
http://www.RoamingRobots.co.ukwww.RoamingRobots.co.uk

[robotwars]

2008 UK championships

oh and axes rule... wait till the weekend and ill show you

[ady]

2008 UK championships

Consider this€¦. Event Organisors don€™t make any money€¦.. or they get fed up, what happens€¦ they give up€¦. then what ?

Two way mate, roboteers get fed up, we dont make any money, we give up then what :wink:

Other than that€¦here€™s an idea why don€™t roboteers put their hands in their pockets, and help with the event if they want it so badly, I don€™t think many will volunteer, but are very easy to expect it all for free.

perhaps we should be paid for attending :wink:,i would donate mate but my costs go into robot repairs, and travel expenses, but fra get a donation from me every year, i always make the effort to help at the end of an event in dismantling the arena, thats more than some offer!

unfortunatley i wont be attending (as im washing my hair) no seriously i dont run a hw anymore, but hope all goes well, and look forward to buying the dvd! more expense :sad: lol

[ady]

2008 UK championships

oh and spinners rule! lol

[james...venom]

2008 UK championships

We have 3 race cars each costing many thousands. petrol to tow the cars to race meetings is more than a robot and then its around £150 to enter.

roboteers get a very good deal. an exclusive environment where they can carry out thier hobby in a safe environment for free! coupled with an audience, free acommidation at some events, free food, free co2.... all in all roboteers are a very lucky bunch and get it very easy compared to any other sport/hobby.

it is very much appriciated when roboteers help pack away though

(Message edited by james...venom on January 22, 200

[ady]

2008 UK championships

perhaps a charge should be considered going forward? if it is having a financial impact on organsiers, as you will only survive so long.

[grant_ploughbot]

2008 UK championships

It has been discussed, and its something that i strongly agree on, only really for main championships though. Roboteers dont seem to be put off by a small entry fee when Ive asked, and those fees would be put towards something like prize money.
The other problem is roboteers signing up for major events with robots that arent built, or not likely to be comming - people get turned away and the others sometimes wont turn up. An entry fee would secure you a place and make you think twice if your robot is going to be ready.

[swanaldo]

2008 UK championships

there is 1 thing clear tho is that there is no entry fees for this uk champs and i personally think that this thread should be kept on topic about the uk champs. and if you want to post anything negative about me and my views then post in team bud thread not here.

[grant_ploughbot]

2008 UK championships

Were not just talking about the Heavyweight UK champs shane...
Its not moaning - I know exactky what jonno is talking about and I back it 100%, remember we also lost ALOT of money at our European champs last year, and its that sort of thing that people seem to forget.

[john]

2008 UK championships

i think we should pay to enter competitions and then that money would then be put towards prize money - as i think this is sometimes a reason the EOs can lose money as it is alot of money - but when u win it its hard to turn away imo

or us roboteers could organise that ourselves if everyone was up for it

we also get our food free at events and theres always alot of it which saves id say about £5-10 each a day depending where u get food from as at venues its normally expensive - food ALWAYS tastes nice aswel - i love it

(Message edited by john on January 22, 200