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  • #31
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    Gary, since Im agreeing with you about the problems of costing robots, given things like sponsorship, Idve thought it obvious that I was talking about the real cost of Typhoon, not what your team actually paid for it. I nearly wrote expensively made or in real terms but thought that was unnecessarily pedantic... In fairness Im taking it as fact that BAe made the main ring and factoring in the astronomic cost of doing that as a business transaction rather than as sponsorship. Maybe I heard wrong. In any event even a few thousand would still put it among the most expensively made UK robots. The point I was making (or thought I was), is that extreme engineering solutions can give options that are not available at pocket money prices. Its no coincidence that most of the top-flight UK heavyweights would be expensive to make- whether or not the builders actually forked out their own money. Its not a coincidence that they are all well designed and driven either! Im not fussed what people spend on their machines, as Ive already said.

    David, I didnt suggest that money is a substitute for skill and experience. I said: ...financial resources and sophisticated engineering capabilities are a distinct advantage all else being equal. Not that suprising or controversial a statement Id have thought. If Woody and I had a few hundred quid to spend, Ka-Pow! would almost certainly be a tougher, smaller and more competitive robot. Alans considerable skills and expertise and my more modest abilities would not have changed at all.

    (Message edited by lex on August 13, 2007)

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    • #32
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      Oh no, I wasnt refering to your post, I was refering to the capping in price thing. Or have I missed something here.

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      • #33
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        ok whos up for banning robots i dont like then? its not a long list
        any takers? no? fine ill jus bugger off to australia then

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        • #34
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          good luck craig on your travels,there is a young boy who is really going to miss you.good luck and all our love from team tilly...pete,jackie(mum2),jess,and a big hug from shane xxxxxxxxx

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          • #35
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            Bye Graig, have a safe yourney, have fun, and keep in touch.

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            • #36
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              bye mr danby and have fun

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              • #37
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                Banning robots you dont like eh?.........
                Now theres a thought - any advantage to me I will take gladly

                Keep strong, stay sober(ish) and PLEASE stay in one piece
                Love Karoline

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                • #38
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                  Dont tinker with the plane and get back safely.

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                  • #39
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                    ha i dont drink anymore ill be good havent be injured since colchester ish time just been very very ill
                    lifes been not so good but im glad to be able to have the oppertunity to go off to oz, and i wouldnt be craig without taking an antweight where ever i go so there we go

                    best of luck to all in the uk champs but gotta say Shane, Pete Lale and co, and Dave Moulds are my faves to win

                    and Pete give mr Shane Lale (future heavyweight champion of the world) a big hug from me

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                    • #40
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                      Good luck Craig on your journeys, but I do not believe you have stopped drinking, that is madness!

                      On to more pressing issues, owning two of the robots that I€™m sure would be banned under a cost limit, I naturally disagree, but trying to see a non- bias point of view I still disagree with adding a cost limit.

                      As Craig and others rightfully stated, there is a divide in robteers and I fear a cost limit would weaken the sport, as many roboteers would have to rebuild or pack up roboteering, in turn create a bigger divide.

                      So in short I disagree with a cost limit, maybe materials such as titanium and hardox should be banned to make the fights more even, this would also count both my robots out and Craig€™s robot for that matter, but it will stop boring boxes entering the arena and maybe bring back some originality and ingenuity to the sport.

                      Just a few thoughts
                      Tom

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                      • #41
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                        More rules, No thanks.

                        Not allowing materials as Titanium and hardox will diminish the amount of heavies seriously, and I doubt the owners of these machines will rebuild or replace those heavies.

                        But as non FRA member I cannot oppose any new rule banning or disadvantaging peoples investment in the hobby.
                        And no driving RW based robot is a boring box. Even as polysterene armored cannonfooder there is a value for those.

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                        • #42
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                          HI Craig
                          above post from jackie ....
                          this from me :. be cool be safe enjoy and most of all come back see you in a while...
                          (dont forget the postcards to your little buddy keep in touch) BEST OF LUCK !!!!
                          Pete.....

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                          • #43
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                            You are correct Mario in saying that roboteers would not rebuild, Kan-opener would be finished if such a rule was to be enforced, therefore I do not agree with such a rule, I was merely stating that cost of a robot may not be the only major factor in a robots success.

                            Tom

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                            • #44
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                              the current rules are ok

                              and even if there was a cost limit - beast and beauty wouldnt matter as my dad gets everything free - apart from all the roboteqs he breaks which costs more then some robots! :@

                              he prob wont admit it - but now iv told every1 ur secret dad :sad:

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                              • #45
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                                Ive got to agree with Tom, cost of the machine is not that important, best machine in the world isent any good without a good driver, but a cheap and cheerfull one with a good driver could win.

                                Just my thoughts on the subject, the rules are fine as they are.


                                Dave Team DMac

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