Derail from new start new show.

[corsair_lightning]

Force Feedback and Envy please.

[kodster]

Re: A New Start A New Show

Force Feedback and Envy please.

1) The tournament's full.

2) Did Alex not just say you can't use his vapourbots anymore?

[corsair_lightning]

Re: A New Start A New Show

1: My mistake. I didn't notice.

2: Only on ARC, seeing as they're his robots, and he's only letting me use them on FRA(which I forgot about on ARC. You know what happened).

[kodster]

Re: A New Start A New Show

2: Only on ARC, seeing as they're his robots, and he's only letting me use them on FRA(which I forgot about on ARC. You know what happened).

Note the bolded part of your sentence. That's only what he DID let you use them for, before he told you that you can't use them anymore. See where this is going?

Urgh, why do you have to start an argument for the umpteenth time...

[corsair_lightning]

Re: A New Start A New Show

Who's the one who keeps bringing stuff up? If you'd just let sleeping things lie, then these arguments wouldn't happen.

[kodster]

Re: A New Start A New Show

I wasn't arguing until you decided to lay false information out on the table, stating you can still use Alex's bots when that's now void. Therefore I have to respond with the truth, otherwise you'd get away with it wouldn't you? :P

If you stopped trying to cross lines and get away with things (and then arguing that you're entitled to, later), we wouldn't be having an argument now would we?

And don't act like I'm singling you out either. If anybody else tried using Alex's bots in a such way, I'd call them out too.

[corsair_lightning]

Re: A New Start A New Show

You know what? Forget it. I'm tired of the arguments clogging up threads on ARC and FRA. I'm tired of entire threads being screwed up over some mistake of mine(and yes, I have made several mistakes during my time on one or both forums). If you want to talk about this, then come to ARCCon '10 or ARCCon '11. If you tell me that you're going, I'll come, and we'll settle this.

[kodster]

Re: A New Start A New Show

You know what? Forget it. I'm tired of the arguments clogging up threads on ARC and FRA. I'm tired of entire threads being screwed up over some mistake of mine(and yes, I have made several mistakes during my time on one or both forums). If you want to talk about this, then come to ARCCon '10 or ARCCon '11. If you tell me that you're going, I'll come, and we'll settle this.

No. Evading your problems does not help the situation.

[corsair_lightning]

Derail from new start new show.

Who says I'm evading my problems? If we meet each other in person, we might have a chance to stop these f*cked up arguments.

[andrewj]

Re: A New Start A New Show

I usually try to stay out of all this, but I'm tired of the arguments too.

Mark, don't you have your own vapourbot designs? Why don't you use those instead of other people's designs? Everyone is getting confused about what you do and don't own. I believe you have a PM from Kody addressing this situation further.

Also, can I suggest people start using the How Could I Improve thread again. If designs are approved before they're entered into tournaments, we won't get these arguments in tournament threads. It's better to have a debate there rather than in this thread, right?

[kodster]

Re: A New Start A New Show

Who says I'm evading my problems? If we meet each other in person, we might have a chance to stop these f*cked up arguments.

Well I certainly won't be going to an ARCCon in the near future, and you know that full, having read the thread, so yes you are evading the problem. :P

Also, this is the last time I'm going to respond to you on this thread.

[corsair_lightning]

Re: A New Start A New Show

Aren't you dodging the argument by sending me a PM?

And no, I was joking about making my least successful robot a clone of Underall. Dear God, I even said I didn't want Underall.

About getting robots: I don't go for active robots. I go for robots that are retired. It's the closest thing to having an actual robot museum that I've ever had. I enjoy acquiring elderly designs, because it gives me a chance to put my spin on them. Like say, increase the power of its weapon, or revise the armour to make it more sturdy. Case in point: Just as one man's trash is another man's treasure, one vapourboteer's discarded robot is my treasure.

And I would be sending you a PM, but apparently you've disabled PMs.

Elliot: My apologies for this whole thing, but I can't help the fact that Kody won't let sleeping things lie.

[joey_picus]

Re: Derail from new start new show.

I have to echo Andy's point about people no longer using How Could I Improve - as well as this sorry business, looking around peoples' forums I can see a fair few dimensioning mistakes, machines that are overweight, designs that are far too compact or have parts that just don't make sense, and I don't feel comfortable doing or have the time to send everyone PMs about specific robots...if people used the thread then the errors could be picked up now rather than when tournaments are entered.

This goes for Mark's 'improvements' too as it would really avoid a lot of threads being cluttered if he were to just post them in that thread first so people can raise their issues there, and if nothing else it would centralise the arguments to prevent Leo having to exercise his super mod powers.

[leorcc]

Re: Derail from new start new show.

Right. I just split these posts from the previous topic.

Any more of these kind of derails in other peoples tournaments will result in an official warning for all people involved in the derail. Any problems with a post, report them to me with a reason why they are a problem and it will be dealt with. Do not clutter up the tournament with back and fort's on legalities of the entries or stat problems. PM me, I will contact the person in question.