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  • #16
    A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

    Quick and blatant plug for a couple of things I wrote or helped write that may be useful:

    Good Fights Guide: A collection of semi-useful advice for writing fanfic fights
    http://strickenone.proboards99.com/index.cgi?board=gen&action=display&thread=460http://strickenone.proboards99.com/i...lay&thread=460

    A table I (well, Andy Jackson did the actual table code but I researched the figures) did for various different electric motors and their peak power at various voltages
    http://strickenone.proboards99.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=chevawards&thread=4 91&page=1http://strickenone.proboards99.com/i...chevawards&thr ead=491&page=1

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    • #17
      A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

      I swear that LEM130s at 36V produce 9hp, not 4, and also S28-400 Magmotors at 36V produce 6hp each, not 18hp.

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      • #18
        A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

        LEM130s provide 9hp PEAK, not overall, Paul. And S28-400s do provide 18hp at 36v, but youre going to have some pretty cooked MagMotors afterwards. :P

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        • #19
          A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

          There is no way a S28-400 delivers 18HP on 36V. 6 to 8HP at best. Even the C40's supply 8.5HP on 36V and they don't like that at all. And S28's are much more flimsy than than the C40.

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          • #20
            A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

            I did say it was a work in progress, I wasn't overly sure of the Magmotor figures myself given that there doesn't seem to be much available for overvolted ones on the net...

            Leo, could I possibly have a word with you on MSN about this when the appropriate time comes along?

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            • #21
              Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

              Team Riobotz have recently release a high quality tutorial for building robots, it covers nearly everything you will ever need to know about building a combat robot. I've decided to post it here as it has a lot of information that could help people improve their vapourbot designs and improves stats in whole.

              http://www.riobotz.com.br/riobotz_combot_tutorial.pdf

              It's a large PDF file, with 300+ pages, but definitely a good read. I highly recommend it, as well as the Paul Hills Website

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              • #22
                Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

                Sheesh, Aaron, you're gonna scare all the newcomers away.

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                • #23
                  Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

                  Just giving them some material to keep them from getting blasted for crappy stats in your tournament :wink:

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                  • #24
                    Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

                    Since posting the motors table it's been revised quite a bit, redone with the help of Leo and Kody among others, and as a result actual sort-of-scientific calculations have been used and it should be more accurate now.

                    I'll add other stuff to it in the near future, like a proper writeup of my little battery guide thing and possibly some more featherweight sized motors for the table, but the problems should be sorted now.

                    *gets off of self promotion stand *

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                    • #25
                      Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

                      people should use brushless motors more. the reason you don't see them in real robots is usually cost and controller constraints: things that don't matter here

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                      • #26
                        Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

                        Originally posted by parassyte
                        people should use brushless motors more. the reason you don't see them in real robots is usually cost and controller constraints: things that don't matter here
                        Problem is there isn't a hell of a lot of combat ready brushless motors out there. You either have industrial stuff that is massively heavy with conservative power ratings or model hobby stuff with lightweight with overrated power ratings.

                        When you start talking custom brushless there is much to debate about figures and ratings too

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                        • #27
                          Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

                          Originally posted by knightrous
                          Originally posted by parassyte
                          people should use brushless motors more. the reason you don't see them in real robots is usually cost and controller constraints: things that don't matter here
                          Problem is there isn't a hell of a lot of combat ready brushless motors out there. You either have industrial stuff that is massively heavy with conservative power ratings or model hobby stuff with lightweight with overrated power ratings.

                          When you start talking custom brushless there is much to debate about figures and ratings too
                          There are a few. Remember that brushless Etek? Team Nightmare has those.
                          http://www.robotmarketplace.com/product ... TEKBL.html

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                          • #28
                            Re: A Beginners Guide to Vapourbots

                            OMG those motors have power
                            thats why major damadge uses them.
                            archie
                            team fire force

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