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  • #16
    Right, here we go again...

    low ground clearance robots in real life get into all kinds of problems, because the surface they have to drive on are not flat either. The flippers and other bottomdwelling robots quite ofter tear the floor up by splitting the top layer of the floor from the rest of the arena.

    If your robot is 0mm all the way round, in 99% of all arenas you are a stationary object.

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    • #17
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      Thing is, that when your both your wheels and your chassis touch the floor, you should be able to move forward, only just, when the floor is completely flat.

      If this is the case in Daves arena... I have spikes on my bot that scrape over the ground. Driving over a merely scratched floor will get you stranded in notime.

      0 gc bots work when only one side has 0 gc (flippers), or when its caused by skirts.

      But if Dave decides to let you modify your stats (Id be fine with that, youre new here after all), Id happily state that my tactics will involve me being my annoying ramming self. Go for every weaponless side and slide my spikes under. Flip, ram, repeat, pit

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      • #18
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        OK - I get the point. Dave, Im puttoing my GC up my 3mm on the sides and rear, but the scoop remains zero.

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        • #19
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          And just to restate my stats.

          Ive seen a picture of Flick. True, it is faster by 5mph, but Im more powerful and controllable. What I shall actually do is attack the front of Flick, as I mostly will get under, and try to bend one of the forks. If I get the side, crush with all my power until I break something inside Flick, before pitting it.

          And Martijn says he will fli-p and pit me. I use a hydraulic ram that is actually quite fast, and I use it to self-right.

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          • #20
            Right, here we go again...

            *tries to see self-righting arm on the stats of Crusher*

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            • #21
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              And about Crusher C.U being too fat (), AJ said once that SOR 5.5 would be at least 400kg overweight. I rest my case.

              So by your theory, if I entered a bot with 8 ETEKs, 25mm thick hardox armour, as long as I put the weight as 100kg, its all fine and dandy? I know your new here and all, but please actually try to have a semi realistic design... Martijn is the first new blood Ive seen turn up in a long time that didnt arrive with crazy entries...

              And AJs statement was an exaggeration, SOR 5.5 was in the realm of realistic.

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              • #22
                Right, here we go again...

                But Aaron - Crusher insnt overweight! And my robot is realistic. Everything is fine and dandy on Crusher, and when this competition starts off, I will hopefully do well!

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                • #23
                  Right, here we go again...

                  Face it, Paul: it IS overweight, as are all of your other machines, and most actual roboteers would agree.

                  If you dont like hearing that, too bad. Its the truth. Now do somthing about it.

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                  • #24
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                    The 12mm Ti for top and bottom alone is already 25kg. Then you want to add 5 mm tungston steel, and then im not even mentioning the sides.

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                    • #25
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                      If you want to make a more realistic guess to weights, just calculate the dimensions of your armour, and calculate the mass at

                      http://www.allmeasures.com/Formulae/static/materials/http://www.allmeasures.com/Formulae/static/materials/

                      Select the material you want an fill in the appropriate volume. it will give you the mass/weight.

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                      • #26
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                        A tip for the future, Paul. There arent many weapons that can attack the underside of a robot, so you can get away with a less well armoured base. Some real robots like Ruff Ruff Dougal didnt even have a base.

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                        • #27
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                          But if you make an invertable machine there is not much choice in that matter.

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                          • #28
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                            Sorry, didnt see Crusher was invertable. I did, however see something about a hydraulic self righter, which made me think it wasnt

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                            • #29
                              Right, here we go again...

                              Where did I put the Dunce hat?

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                              • #30
                                Right, here we go again...

                                Oh, Ive been wearing it for the past decade or so

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