Mechanical Noise - Series 2

[pcbore]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

I could be wrong on this, but I think a translational spinner with 0 mm GC skirts is a recipe for disaster.

25 MPH is too fast, unless you mean spinning speed. If that is the spinning speed, whats the movement speed?

[paulc]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

I just have a few things to say please:

Leo: I cant draw it up, because I dont have that type of software on my computer

Frank: As I have said, Im basing Grizzly Bear on Cyberdemon (Stats here, If Im correct)
Name: Cyberdemon
Weight: 100kg
Shape: Turtle Road Kill
Speed: 35mph
Armor: 6mm Hardox 600
Power: 3 S28-400 Magmotors on 24v with 2 Palasonic 12vs powering them. Also, 2 2kg CO2 tanks for the self righter.
Weapon: Like Heart of Fire, the bot IS the weapon. It has a Y-Drive which allows it to spin and move, though pretty uncontrollabley. Its high speed makes it extremley destructive, as well. The many teeth also allow for quick hits due to the decent torque. Also, theres now a self righting plate that pops out sideways [its the white square on the top] It dosent have too much power to self right, but hopefully it wont need to self right TOO much.
GC: 6mm.
Strengths: EXTREMLEY Destrutive.
Weaknesses: nasty control.

And also, Im going to admit, although I have before, I dont have the faintest idea on how to build a robot. I just thought, make a translational spinner with a bar on.

[pcbore]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

As far as my concerns go, Cyberdemon doesnt have skirts, although what I said about speed applies to that too.

[paulc]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

No, you see, I need the skirts to strike low on flipper blades. Grizzly Bear is sort of an flipper-killer, and the skirts help me on that.

[pcbore]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

You dont need skirts, just low teeth. Skirts on a machine that has to attack by spinning around, and moves while spinning are likely to drag around on the floor and cause control problems, or if theyre on normal loose hinges will probably be lifted up by the force, negating the effect they were put there for.

[andrewj]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

To me, Grizzly Bear sounds slightly like The Translator - a vapourbot me and Aaron put together last year. Although your take on it is slightly different in the way ours was a a full body spinner and yours is a bar spinner.

LEM130s arent actually that heavy, and certainly arent limited to just rambots. I use them in pretty much all of my vapourbots, as they are much lighter in weight and more powerful than your standard Bosch 750 or S28-400 Magmotor. If anything, it would be the armour or weapon set-up putting Grizzly Bear overweight rather than the motors.

In terms of the skirts, theres no way some spikes are just going to rip a flipper plate off every time. As well as this, skirts are a bit risky on translational spinners and there is no real need for them. As Frank says, if you want to wreck low-lying objects use some low teeth on the bar to slice them up instead. On the subject of the bar, you say its destructive - but youll have to prove it... there is no mention of what powers it.

And to conclude, is this a Psyclonised killer or a flipper killer? You seem to have drifted away from the original intention. Skirts and the like are just parts that can be ripped off when facing someone like Psyclonised.

[paulc]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

OK, Ill remove the skirts, and make the teeth slightly longer, now make the length 7cm

It is sort of designed to be a Psyclonised killer, as the cage and the hammers provide the perfect items to grab hold of and rip. And its not designed to rip the flipper out, its designed to rip off extension plates.

And also:

WEAPONRY: THIS IS AN INNOVATION ON THE BAR SPINNER - IT€™S A TRANSLATIONAL SPINNER, WITH A BAR REACHING OVER THE TOP. IT WEIGHS 20KG AND HAS 2 x 2.5kg HARDOX WEIGHTS. IT IS DEMONISHLY DESTRCTIVE. THE BAR REACHES DOWN TO ABOUT 20CM OFF THE GROUND

So, here it is again, the bar is part of the robots shape! The translational ability just helps it produce more force, and cut down on spin-up time.

Actually, I hope Grizzly Bear does end up in the same heat as the #1 seed. Ill look forward to it if it happens:wink:

(Message edited by paulc on October 07, 2007)

(Message edited by paulc on October 07, 2007)

[paulc]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

Sorry, I think this is how an actual translational spinner works - It spins around, and drives around at the same time. So then the Tip Speed of Grizzly Bear is 510mph

[leorcc]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

I suppose with translational spinner you mean what we call meltybrain, the robot spins, therefore the bar spins, and you move by giving the right motor more speed at the right time, giving you motion in all directions.

How do you propose that it saves spinup time? Because now you are spinning up more mass than you would with the bar alone. Force I can agree a little on, except that the real energy that matters is at the tips of the bar, not so much on the rest of the robot.

What kind of size wheels and what gear ratio would you have to reach 510mph tip speed?

510mph is roughly 816kmh
60cm diameter is a circumference of 1.9 meters
So you would need to spin your 100kg robot with 7200rpm to reach that kind of speed.

[paulc]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

Activity is very quiet at the moment! When will we see the opening draw? And we will be see the new stats from the remaining entrys?

All these questions and more will be answered...very soon

(Cue EastEnders theme song)

[majinb]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

I cant post the draw when Im still waiting for some bots paulo

[swanaldo]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

sorry lads just posting. no offence

[majinb]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

hey there, thought it might be great fun to update the entry-list

1- Alex Holt
a. Tengu VII
b. Black Panther Queen
c. Achilles
d. Archangel of the Abyss
e. Salamander III
f. Nodachi
g. Baldur Gamma
h. Slammer V
2- Chris M
a. Orka MK4
b. Die-Ceratops Re-Invertus
c. Cyclone Force 2.5
d. Leprosy Infection
e. Mega Masher 2
f. Y4
g. Axe-O-Lotl
h. Obliteration
3- Kody
a. Wedginator 5.0
b. Super Gore: TD
c. The Epidemic
d. Surgeon General (Season 5)
e. Macduff the 2nd
f. Dysfunction 2.0
g. Shadow Zone
h. Intrigue
4- Richard
a. Battle Raptor IV
b. Death Adder III
c. Double Killa
d. Drilla Killa VII
e. MORD2
f. Snakebite IV
g. SYNDOS
h. Tenderizer€™s Revenge
5- Steven
a. Wedge Devolution
b. Killotine: EVO
c. Metal Sonic Spin Dash
d. Whirligig 4.0
e. Clawdius Decimus Murderous
f. Turbo Tails
g. Chaos 2 (Extreme 2)
h. Mega Hurts L.T. (Series 7)
6- Frank
a. The Crashing Bore
b. Tempest Evileroution
c. The Disc 5
d. NSBFR-X
e. Starstorm 2
f. Enter the May Tracks
g. IDSFA
h. Firestorm
7- Alex M
a. Flank Attack: DT
b. Return of Feedback
c. Snijder
d. Eurypterus Evolved
e. Cosmic Thunder 2
f. Cacodemon
g. Malaria
h. Meat Slicer 2
8- Paul
a. MeCannibal
b. Great Bite Shark
c. Grizzly Bear
d. Turbulence
e. Merlin
f. Storm 2
g. Sky Blast
h. Hyena
9- Andy
a. Psyclonised
b. Yet Another Cut Above The Rest
c. GeForce 4.0
d. ForcePower 5.0
e. Wedga€™s Revenge
f. Axeon 2.0
g. SOR 5.5
h. Aneurysm
10- Matty F
a. Unknown
b. Unknown
c. Unknown
d. Unknown
e. Unknown
f. Unknown
g. Unknown
h. Unknown
11- Tony
a. Unknown
b. Unknown
c. Unknown
d. Unknown
e. Unknown
f. Unknown
g. Unknown
h. Unknown
12- Martyn
a. Unknown
b. Unknown
c. Unknown
d. Unknown
e. Unknown
f. Unknown
g. Unknown
h. Unknown

yeah, still 3 people to enter their stuff

and may I remind Martyn, that with Chris Cooper not entering, Wind Chaser will be seeded 16th

[paulc]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

Very interesting line-up.

I just to say 1 thing

The Turbulence Ive entered is the new MK2 version of the machine, which has the new armour improvement, and a full-pressure flipper - believe or not, the previous version was LP!

And for those whove never heard of Merin, go to the competitors section for details.

[majinb]

Mechanical Noise - Series 2

o, and I have one quick query about your bots Paul... Hyenas stats state theres a flywheel, but not wheter its vertical or horizontal. enlighten me