Bite Sized Tournament

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Alex has some pretty solid designs, once again.

Room for one more. Whoever posts their entries first gets it. Whoever doesnt get in, dont worry too much. This can be over the day I get everything, probably. Soon enough well be doing a 2nd tournament.

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Aw come on. I only have one more week of break to write this. After that, no guarantees Ill actually follow through.

[majinb]

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fine, Ill put something on

Lightweight-Another Night at the Bar
A broad axlebot with a big and heavy horizontal spinning bar mounted at the bottom, sticking out from the front and the back, the only reason it can drive at all is because of the very low centre of gravity, which keeps it (fairly) steady.
Specialities: That weapon
Pic: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/_MadBull_/Bar.gifhttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...dBull_/Bar.gif

Middleweight: Waiting for the Axe to Fall
A compact double-headed axebot, shaped for perfect selfrighting, with a diamond-edged blade and a small titanium ram at the front, 4WD by two LEM-130s.
Specialities:Weapon
Pic: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/_MadBull_/Axe2.gifhttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...Bull_/Axe2.gif

Heavyweight:Flick of the Wrist
6WD Invertible box, with invertible lifting spikes, which can be raised to function as ramming spikes, yay!
Specialities: Traction, lotsa traction, and speed
Pic: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/_MadBull_/Flick.gifhttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ull_/Flick.gif

Superheavyweight: Sheer Heart Attack!
An invertible, tracked bot, designed to ALWAYS be in contact with the floor, and thereby safely drive up wedges, rams, whatever, while damaging stuff with that drum, basically, designed to gain advantage over opponents by driving OVER them.
Specialities: Nice traction, rough terrain, nice weapon (jack of all trades, really)
Pic: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/_MadBull_/Tracks2.gifhttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...l_/Tracks2.gif

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I still really need a picture of Ad Infinitum. The imageshack links dont work.

[kodster]

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Uh, anybody alive at all?

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I am. Ive writted the entire tournament except Ad Infinitums fights. Ill just guess those and post it.

[siphai]

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http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/1999/adinfinitum8zz9.jpghttp://img486.imageshack.us/img486/1...initum8zz9.jpg

Theres a new Ad Infinitum picture.

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Bite Sized Tournament

Lightweights


Ad Infinitum - Alex M and W
Anti-Virus - Kody Kunz

Another Night at the Bar - Martijn Benschop
Just a Little Baldur - Alex Holt



Middleweights


Scorpion Bite - Alex M and W
Solstice - Kody Kunz

Waiting for the Axe to Fall - Martijn Benschop
Sith - Alex Holt


Heavyweights


IFHW - Alex M and W
Wedginator Reborn - Kody Kunz

Flick of the Wrist - Martijn Benschop
Black Panther Queen - Alex Holt


Superheavyweights


Eurypterus - Alex M and W
Red Flag - Kody Kunz

Sheer Heart Attack - Martijn Benschop
Red Knight - Alex Holt



First Round

Lightweights


Ad Infinitum - Alex M and W
Anti-Virus - Kody Kunz

61-39% Ad Infinitum wins. Both of them specialize in lowness. Anti is faster, presumably

slightly lower, but against a robot with defense on all sides, that really doesnt matter

much. AI threatens a knockout to Anti-Virus, by flipping it on its side. Anti-Virus

doesnt appear to have any bars or spikes to cause it to fall over, so it would likely

just sit there. The bane of simple designs is that they get caught on things--walls,

hazards, other robots, and dont have any moving parts to get them off. While Anti-Virus

would probably push Ad Infinitum around for much of the match (and win for the percent of

the time that it completely avoids getting flipped), the moment one flip occurs, its at a

severe weakness at any orientation other than right-side up.


Another Night at the Bar - Martijn Benschop
Just a Little Baldur - Alex Holt

91-9% Baldur wins. Its a compact, well-armored design that would be difficult to

incapacitate. ANB devotes enough of its weapon energy to be able to damage the front and

ends of this opponent. Baldurs actuator would probably break, but ANB is too unstable to

effectively push Baldur, or have any offensive capactity if its weapon slows.


Middleweights


Scorpion Bite - Alex M and W
Solstice - Kody Kunz

57-43% Solstice wins. The weapon design is difficult for a weaker disc-spinner like SB to

disable. Its likely to lose its weapon first. It would win in almost half of the

matchups, because it has supurior wheelpower, and enough of a crumple zone on its front

to survive impacts. It would push Solstice around once it slowed the weapon sufficiently.

Solstice threatens more damage and a more likely knockout in a potential fight though,

giving it a slight edge.



Waiting for the Axe to Fall - Martijn Benschop
Sith - Alex Holt

51-49% Sith wins. Its pneumatic actuator would have little effect on the Axe, and would be

weaker than advertized, due to the position of the jack. Axe also threatens an unusually

strong drivetrain for a middleweight, making the pushing match very close. Siths primary

advantage comes from its front leverage, making any head to head collision favorable. It

would probably not take functional damage from the axe.


Heavyweights


IFHW - Alex M and W
Wedginator Reborn - Kody Kunz

82-18% IFHW wins. IFHW takes a lot of design aspects from Wedge of Doom, which is very

effective against Wheely Big Cheese-esque designs like WR. It has a strong front, which is

hard for WR to get around, and a leverage advantage on that front, along with better

acceleration and control. The minority of times WR manages to get around the front though,

its much more powerful flipper would give it the potential to juggle its

slower-to-self-right opponent, and possibly threaten a knockout.



Flick of the Wrist - Martijn Benschop
Black Panther Queen - Alex Holt

Wow, your heavyweight entries are very developed. They take a lot of successful aspects

from real competitors. This would be a very dynamic fight.

55-45% Black Panther Queen wins. Mostly due to better versatility. Flick would get the

leverage first more than half the time, but following through would be difficult. Black

Panther could continue attacking while being pushed from the front, and recover. I think

this would be close; neither threatening a knockout, but Black Panther somewhat more able

to control the fight, with its barrage of actuating weaponary.


Superheavyweights


Eurypterus - Alex M and W
Red Flag - Kody Kunz

64%-36% Red Flag wins. Heres an interesting fight. Eurypterus is low and sturdy, while

Red Flag is mostly focused on its weapon. Both robots have similar front leverage spikes,

which should present an interesting problem if theyre around the same height. Now

normally, I would be very critical of Red Flags lack of invertibility as a weakness, but

against a weaponless opponent in an arena without hazards or house robots, this would be

difficult to capitalize on. The Flywheel will further stabilize it. I think this is one of

those fights where the flywheel does most of the speaking; it probably cant incapacitate

Eurypterus, but the hinged leverage devices on Eurys front present ripe targets to rip

off. Theres no denying Eurypterus has an aggression advantage, but Red Flags offense

seems to be the best defense.


Sheer Heart Attack - Martijn Benschop
Red Knight - Alex Holt

51%-49% Sheer Heart Attack wins. I would have to see this one. This would be one of the

best fights in the round. Both robots are bizarre, and threaten a KO. At first glance, Red

Knights weapon seems to be impenetrable, but SHA is one of the few robots to bare just

the right tool to neutralize it.

SHA would come out ahead in any weapon-weapon contact, breaking the small flywheel (light

by Superheavyweight standards) and leveraging itself under the shield. With a stronger

drivetrain and sturdy weapon, it would push Red Knight around and deal possibly enough

damage for a knockout, to that central hull. The percentage is close though, because Red

Knight threatens a very early 1-hit knockout, if it manages to nick one of the exposed

tracks of SHA with the flywheel--tearing it off.



Well, lets look at the percents for this round! This tournament is too small for them to

matter, but in future tournaments, the highest percentage drivers will determine the

brackets.

Alex Holt - 61.5%
Alex M and W - 55.5%
Kody Kunz - 44.5%
Martijn Benschop - 38.5%

Thats just one round though. Im going to change the tournament rules a bit. Since I had

everyone fight one other person this round, I think Ill do a round-robin style, with

everyone fighting someone else the next round. Then Ill tally the robots with the most

points in each weight class, and the drivers with the most points.

[kodster]

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Bah...ah well, I cant complain, Alex MW is rather more experienced at this than I am.

[kodster]

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Okay, time for an analytical decision from me.

Anti-Virus VS. Ad Infinitum

I agree wholeheartedly with Nicks decision. This sounds like the Bad Attitude VS. Huggy Bear fight of Battlebots, and Huggy Bear came out on top. Plus Anti-Virus isnt as powerful as a lightweight Bad Attitude and Ad Infinitum is more powerful than a lightweight Huggy Bear...yup, Ill die here.

Solstice VS. Scorpion Bite

I dunno, Solstice isnt really low enough to effectively hit Scorpion Bite. I disagree (against my own team?! ) and say that Scorpion Bite would win.

IFHW VS. Wedginator Reborn

I disagree with one thing: Wedginator is easily able to get to the sides and flip, even with IFHWs wedges flanking the lifting forks. Even so, IFHW can just as easily get out of danger as well as in. IFHW will win.

Eurypterus VS. Red Flag

Yes, this is definitely a fight Red Flag would win. Theres nowhere for Eurypterus to get under but the disc, which should cause some big damage even if it doesnt shock him to death.

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Solstice vs Scorpion Bite is one of those fights that would get heavily affected by the size of the arena. The larger the arena is, the more likely it is for Solstice to win.

I didnt really specify how large this particular arena was, but Id prefer for it to be on the larger end of the scale, to compensate for a lack of obstacles in the middle. Without that, box-rushing becomes a huge problem. I like having room for maneuvering and strategy.

[siphai]

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Eurypterus VS. Red Flag

Yes, this is definitely a fight Red Flag would win. Theres nowhere for Eurypterus to get under but the disc, which should cause some big damage even if it doesnt shock him to death.

I have to disagree here. My speciality is in my lowness, and speed, so I should be able to get to your sides, get under, and slam you around.

Also, I cant see a vertical spinner being very effective against a low to the ground bot like Eurypterus. Nightmare vs. Biohazard, anyone?

Also in Solstice vs. Scorpion Bite, I could see SB winning there, due to the fact that spinning bars are pretty effective against FBSs. They can hit the shell and most likely dent it in, thus slowing the rotation.

[kodster]

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quote:

I have to disagree here. My speciality is in my lowness, and speed, so I should be able to get to your sides, get under, and slam you around.

Also, I cant see a vertical spinner being very effective against a low to the ground bot like Eurypterus. Nightmare vs. Biohazard, anyone?

Dont forget that the spiked-out wedges will drive Eurypterus into the disc if he tries to go after the sides. And even if he does, my (relatively weak) lifting skirts are designed to prevent any kind of wedge or lifting arm assault from back/rear sides. The only other way than approaching the disc would be to try and assault the front wedges from the other direction, by which time you actually get there I will be pointing the disc at you.

As for the Nightmare VS. Biohazard fight, Biohazard would have been upended had it not been for the skirts. My disc would tear you to shreds, or rip off most of your panels and lifting arms instead of just tearing.

Box rush me, I dare ya.

[siphai]

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You can say that I wouldnt be able to get under you, but Im afraid the stats say more. You focused your speciality on your weapon, not the lowness of your skirts, therefore I should get under you.

[kodster]

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Okay, you got me there. But still all I have to do is keep the disc pointed at you, and you wont be able to move in without box-rushing me and risk immobilization.