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  • #16
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    Yes grant that may be true but the blue ones dont give as much grip imho

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    • #17
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      if they are the same material how can they be less grippy?

      I think the blue looks better

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      • #18
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        Because you can have less sure (i think thats the right word). Basically although they might be the same material there all slightly different. Look at the latex on football gloves, thats all slightly different. Also Graphite and Diamond have the sma molecular forumla but are totally different.

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        • #19
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          Ian,
          Do you know the sure value of a blue wheel? Last time I spoke to you, you hadn€™t ever picked up a blue wheel, so I don€™t know how you know all that now? I agree with Gary, I think a blue wheel looks far superior to a roll of cellotape.

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          • #20
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            Ian, the word you wanted to use is shore and thats the value of softness in elastic materials like rubber. The lower the value, the softer the material, and the more grip- usualy- it has.

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            • #21
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              as i understand with vulkalon you can have different colours, therefore you have a complete custom tyre. But the blue wheels offer an off the shelf option and i assume are cheaper.

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              • #22
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                Much cheaper!



                Vulkalon wheels are expencive in comparison and then you have to make your own hubs. I would recommend them for heavies or feathers whos wheels are completely exposed and therefore will get hit by nasty weapons.

                Blue wheels would be lighter and as alan says they are off the shelf items, so quick and easy to get. The plastic for the hub is a thermo plastic, this means it wont crack or shatter under impact. Plus when your wheels get hit for example by a high energy nasty spinner somthing has got to absorb the energy. if you have a steel or ali hub it will bend or worst still could cause damage to your chassis, bearings or axles etc. however if you had a plastic hub, who cares if it gets shreaded as that more likly to give than your bearings and they are cheaper and easyer to replace.

                saying this both have been used on the most sucsessfull machines around

                Razer, Warhead, Behemoth - Blue Wheels
                Storm 2 - Vulkalon

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                • #23
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                  Behemoth - 6 Blue wheels virtually identical in size to Storm II - with 6 Vulkollan wheels. Identical tread area and loading on each tyre...

                  ... I dont think I need to go into which gives the most grip (and I know the drivers of the other robots wouldnt disagree !) particularly Ian Lewis who saw Storm II run for the first time at Denbigh this weekend and admitted he was totally stunned at how much grip Storm II puts down on the arena surface !

                  If you want grip, at the moment the best option is Vulkollan. As with everything in life though, the best is rarely the cheapest :sad:

                  Ed
                  http://www.teamstorm.comhttp://www.teamstorm.com

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                  • #24
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                    how wide are your wheels ed? the 100mm blue are 30mm wide and the 125s are i think 35/40mm wide. whats your estimated centre of gravity from the floor? just curious

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                    • #25
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                      lol i can sense a long debate coming on..........

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                      • #26
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                        lol. The fact is that The blue wheels and Vulkalon are the same thing. If the Blue wheels dont supply enough surface area to give enough grip for what you need then vulkalon will be better as you can make them as wide as you like, thus making them grippier. There is no argument lol.

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                        • #27
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                          Wheels are 30mm wide on Storm II

                          ...and trust me Gary - there is no debate ;o)

                          Ed
                          http://www.teamstorm.comhttp://www.teamstorm.com

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                          • #28
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                            Whoops! Look what i started lol!

                            Anyway, Are the Blue wheels available in 150mm? If so what sort of price are they?

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                            • #29
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                              lol send me an email Glen, il get you sorted. store@RoboChallenge.co.uk

                              both types of wheel have been proven by major teams. both have there advantage and disadvantage. just choose whats best for you.

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                              • #30
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                                James - You Have Mail.

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