V-Tail Mixing

[Anttazz]

I've been following the instruction in the manual trying to turn this on on my Spektrum DX6 but it doesn't seem to be working. Anyone know any possible ways I could be going wrong?

[woody]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

http://manatee-rc.com/Docs/dx6manual-english.pdf

Page 29 - 30 all about entering system mode.

Pick Type AC aircraft mode.

Then
Delta Wing page 35

[Anttazz]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Cheers,

I was reading through that manual as I had a hard copy in the house too. Not the easiest thing to understand by any means but I think I have it now. It still does some funny things though, for example, everything is controller by the right stick, except turning right which is controller by pressing forward on the left stick, bizarrely. I'm going to try resetting to factory defaults then do as you suggested again.

Thanks again Woody.

[mattsdragons]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

You just have to plug the different leads from your ESC to different channels and then it's just luck trying to find a combo that works for you

[woody]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Tony is doing the right thing ...he appears to have been fiddling around and managed to get a cross over mix combo with the other stick...a reset to normal will clear this and he can start afresh.

[mattsdragons]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

ahhhh, i see now, my miss understanding

[Anttazz]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Thought i'd bring this back up rather than start a new thread.

Having some trouble with the way my DX6 is mixing, full forward is up and left and reverse is down and right, I think i'm getting closer to the solution of all this mixing but just cant work out this last (hopefully) small problem.

[woody]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Sounds like you have NO mixing.

[Anttazz]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Would it not only be no mixing if it needed both sticks to carry out all the different ways of moving?

[RogueTwoRobots]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

The setup is as follows:

Four drill motors:
Back two controlled by two Electronize units
Front two controlled by Scorpion XL
Electronize and Scorpion XL RC wires going into two Y-leads and then into the receiver.

It works fine with mixing on the Scorpion (except the rear wheels aren't mixed so they run independently) so with the Scorpion set to tank steering (no mixing) it should be possible to turn on mixing in the radio and control all four wheels with one stick.

So when we set that up, it would drive correctly mixed but the two front wheels would go slower than the two back wheels. Switch it back to tank steering and the front wheels return to their normal speed. I'm not used to DX6s so I'm unfamiliar with the mixer settings; thought it might be a dual rates issue but that shouldn't be affecting the speed of the front motors when all four wheels are going in the same direction

EDIT: Tony, the way it was set up when I left was no mixing. One side of the drive was on one channel (up/down) and the other side was on another channel (left/right). When it's mixed, it's combining both channels so that up/down moves both sides of the drive instead of just one, same with left/right.

[woody]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Oh heck ...what a drive combo!

You have definitely no mixing ...one of the OLD TRICKS ...pre electrickery mixing... was to remount the transmitter stick pod by rotating it 45 degrees.

I'll have a think about your VERY STRANGE drive combo.

[Anttazz]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Of course, my mistake. I think I need a very early bedtime today i'm not thinking straight at all. I just made an Ar$e of explaining it to someone else too.

[woody]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

It's going to be a pain in the Ass to setup...like you have it....and maybe impossible.

Go for the XL in combined mode on one side ....and duel Electronize off a Y lead on the other.

You then have the possibility of altering the servo travel TRV ADJ to compensate for drive side speed differences.

I'd also make sure that the XL calibration is factory reset via the calibration jumper BEFORE attempting to match the drive sides.

http://www.robotpower.com/downloads/Rob ... kstart.pdf

The motors are all the same aren't they? ....Please say yes!

[RogueTwoRobots]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

Haha, don't worry Tony, it happens to us all. I should be in bed but can't be bothered shifting all my tools off it

@Woody: yeah it's certainly a bit different for a drive system! There's reason to the madness though. If the mixing in the transmitter doesn't work I think we talked about just connecting an external mixer to the Electronize controllers for the back wheels and using the built-in mixing of the XL for the front wheels.

If all else fails though, there is always the jaunty-angle transmitter method as you mentioned

EDIT: Just noticed your above suggestion Woody. The robot is now back in Tony's hands so will have to see if he can try that out and what the results will be.

[woody]

Re: V-Tail Mixing

we talked about just connecting an external mixer to the Electronize controllers

Can't hurt to try .... but it might be doomed to failure...getting the two different ESC's to match speed outputs is going to be ...Ummmmm ..Challenging!