Wiring a battle switch

[psycho_fling]

hi all

some of you may know i am going to build a crusher fw, i bought from technobots a battle switch and a relay to use the contriol for the crusher. im not ready to wire them yet but just need to know how, can anyone help? more details on each can be found below

http://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog/info_3400_021.htmlhttp://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog/info_3400_021.html

http://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Relays_360.htmlhttp://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog...elays_360.html

the relay is the 24v one

thanks alex

[woody]

Wiring a battle switch

Youll want two relays Alex.... one for extending the linear actuator and one for retracting it.....configured like this ...http://www.teamonslaught.fsnet.co.uk/DPST.gifhttp://www.teamonslaught.fsnet.co.uk/DPST.gif

[RogueTwoRobots]

Wiring a battle switch

Im probably going down the Battleswitch path for controlling my crusher too and Im after the FWD-OFF-BACK control for my actuator; would I not be able to achieve that with just the battleswitch on its own? Or do I need the two relays as Woody described, as well as the battleswitch? (Ive never fully grasped the concept of how many/what relays Id need for controlling different weapons)

Cheers,
Jamie

[woody]

Wiring a battle switch

If you use a simple ON / OFF function R/C Switch ....like I believe the Battle switch to be .... then you wont be able to give the crusher the OFF function.
Youll only be able to get FWD ( extend to crush ) when you activate the Battle Switch and REV ( retract and return to the ready position ) when the Battle switch is OFF.

You really want a Robbe - Duo - Switch unit #83192000 or similar to activate some larger amperage relays.
You can then get your required 3 functions.

[woody]

Wiring a battle switch

Oh! ....and youll also want a couple of microswitches to act as limit switches.
Im happy to knock up a wiring diagram if anybody requires one.

[psycho_fling]

Wiring a battle switch

yes please, i dont know if you know woody but the battleswitch has 4 screw terminals if you could could you include which wire goes to which terminal?

thanks alex

[RogueTwoRobots]

Wiring a battle switch

Id welcome a diagram as well (cheers Woody!!) but having just had a quick glimpse on Technobots, Im toying with the idea of getting a Dimension Engineering Syren 10 Motor Controller (http://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Dimension_Engineering_Controllers _34.htmlhttp://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog...gineering_Cont rollers_34.html) to control the linear actuator since, as far as Im aware, its a relatively low current-drawing actuator (2A I was told when I bought it) and that controller adds up to a similar cost to the Robbe Duo unit plus relays.

So I might give the motor controller a try and see how it performs

EDIT: Any luck getting an actuator for your crusher yet Alex?

(Message edited by K_C_R on November 07, 2007)

[woody]

Wiring a battle switch

Youll need to give me some idea of the notation on each of the four terminals.

NC - NO - BAT .....Etc.

[psycho_fling]

Wiring a battle switch

ok they are ...

s1
sc
s2
nc

it gives some info

s2 to neg bat
sc to neg motor
s1 pos motor then pos bat

well im in contact with linak and have contacted other companies but no luck yet
thanks alex

[john_frizell]

Wiring a battle switch

If you want to run a motor with three options - forward, reverse and off - get an Electronize electronic switch from Technobots and make a 2 relay H bridge to go with it. The battle switch will only give you on and off.

[woody]

Wiring a battle switch

Well Alex as I said ..and confirmed by John in the post above ....you really want a different R/C switch.

Jamies speed controller idea is probably the better option .. then all you need is two limit switches with diodes placed across the contacts.. opening the microswitch breaks the supply going to the motor ..thus stopping the linear actuator over travelling.. and the diode ensures that the reverse direction can still be obtained.

[RogueTwoRobots]

Wiring a battle switch

Or you can do as I do and get a linear actuator thats already got the limit switches built in

[psycho_fling]

Wiring a battle switch

well thats slightly annoying, im sure someone suggested a battleswitch, does anyone know if technobots take products back? will check the website anyway

hopefully i will also get a actuaor with limit switches in

alex

[woody]

Wiring a battle switch

im sure someone suggested a battleswitch

Yup ......Jamie did back at the beginning of October.

Im just using a servo microswitch system at the moment but the battleswitches on Gimson Robotics would probably be fine (I think youd need two)

[leorcc]

Wiring a battle switch

Those battleswitches are great for switching big relays for heavy duty disk weapons in a single direction for instance.

But when it comes to working in 2 directions, a dual rc switch like the Robbe 8445 dual is the best way to go. They are pretty cheap as wel (28 euros in holland, so about 19 pounds i guess).

http://www.modelbouwbloemendaal.nl/N_frame.html?http://www.modelbouwbloemendaal.nl/Robbe-8445-DUO-SWITCH-_MEMO_--N_art_3206.phphttp://www.modelbouwbloemendaal.nl/N...ouwbloemendaal. nl/Robbe-8445-DUO-SWITCH-_MEMO_--N_art_3206.php