UK Kilobots - 1.362kg (3 lbs) Combat Robots

[brandon_nichols]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Well, there will probably be a lot of rookie builders entering this class with their own hackbot toys since some may not know how to build any complete active-weaponed bots (I've been fighting for 5 years and I STILL don't know how! lol)

So I think if this class doesn't have the active-weapon rule, it could help builders still new to the sport be able to work with a higher weight class rather than just the ants.

[RogueTwoRobots]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Nothing mentioned in the rules there about active weapon requirements. Are we going for active weapons are encouraged? Or active weapons are mandatory?

Or (just had a thought) what about, since there are other challenges such as sumo and obstacle course, have it so that active weapons are mandatory for combat, but not a requirement for sumo, obstacles etc. That way someone who doesn't have a weapon can still build and compete in some challenges. Or would that be adding an element of unnecessary confusion?

[typhoon_driver]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

This isn't going to be the class for new builders. Full combat, with some crazy spinners on the way. If you don't know how to build a machine to survive a spinner battle then I wouldn't bother. Throw a toy in and it won't last beyond the first hit.

I'm still all in favour of an active weapon rule or a compromise like i mentioned earlier on in the thread.

hmmm flame throwers and spinners? Wonder if i could combine the two :P

[craig_colliass]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Are there limmits on the size of the robots?

[xtreme]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Active weapon is just encouraged at the moment, But if you dont have an active weapon make the robot exciting, somthing that will be entertaining, as soon as people start using indestructable boxes we will have to go enforced. I think with it been such a small weight class we will be able to convince people to build active weaponed robots anyway.
People that want to be annoying and build boxes will get round the rule by puting a spike on a micro servo and say its a weapon.

Theres no size limit. The arena doors are going to be about 800mm - 1000mm wide and about 700mm high so if it fits through that its ok. The robots we know about that are being built are about 150-200mm square-ish

[dgr]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

I'm a bit worried about this challenges aspect. Is that going to be an aspect of the competition, or a separate competition. Cos I'd hate to do well in the challenges only to have a spinner destroy me so I can't be repaired, and then have to do an obstacle course or whatever, I'd have to forfeit.

[Kenny]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

its part of the comp yes, like with all fights if your destroy'd, your destroy'd if you can't fix it you can't fight again

[xtreme]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Dont worry Dave challenges wont be for a while yet. We will probably have it so when theres challenges as part of the comp they come before any battles if we do the whole comp in a day. There will be times when its just battle comps only. Then there will be white board fights and grudge matches. There we will be somthing similar to what Swannys doin with the challenge/chairmans trophy, but we will have that for singles and maybe tag team too. All depends on robot numbers and if everyone stays interested.
There will also be leader boards for challenges. So everyone can have a go at all the different challenges. Theres going to be challenges that arnt part of competition.
So there will be:
Main comp throughout the year. This will be a combination of challenge and battle points.
Leader board challenges. Challenges that can be taken at any time to be ranked on the leader board.
Battle comps, There will be a series of knockout rounds.
Day/weekend comps, challenges to gain points, robots with the most points go on to battle. Amount of robots put through to battle will depend on amount of robots entered.
Challenge trophys. These will be the same as what team bud are doing, 1 defence per event, cant re-challenge for the trophy untill champion has defended against 3 other robots after your failed challenge or the trophy changes hands.

To start with it will be mainly just battle comps. Then when we bring challenges out they will be just the leader board challenges. We will bring challenge trophys into it right at the start too. Then next year we can start the main comp.

[xtreme]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Remember we want opinions and suggestions. I dont want it to be just how I would prefer it. This weight class is going to be created by the roboteers for the roboteers. We take suggestions a get everyones opinions on it, If a majority of the people agree with the suggestion and think it would improve the weight class and make it more entertaining to take part in and watch we go ahead with it.

We should try keep as much of the talk about the weightclass in this thread as possible, a few of us talk alot about it on RR chat and MSN so not everyone gets to see what some people suggest and what we discuss.

[john_frizell]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Let's make this class as open as possible in the hope of attracting new people to our sport. If someone wants to armour up a cheap RC car from the boot fair and drive it with a 27 MHz AM radio, they should be welcomed, provided they have a link and a power light. Of course, as Gary says, they won't last long. But the experience of being part of the roboteer community and actually taking part in a battle is a very powerful one and chances are they will come back with something better. Let's set the entry barrier as low as we can [both in money and build time] and see who we can attract.

[widow_twanky]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Let's make this class as open as possible in the hope of attracting new people to our sport. If someone wants to armour up a cheap RC car from the boot fair and drive it with a 27 MHz AM radio, they should be welcomed, provided they have a link and a power light. Of course, as Gary says, they won't last long. But the experience of being part of the roboteer community and actually taking part in a battle is a very powerful one and chances are they will come back with something better. Let's set the entry barrier as low as we can [both in money and build time] and see who we can attract.

I agree actually. I see this as a great way to test out theories, various armour, my welding and stuff like that in a relatively cheap environment before going to make things in 'big'. One thing we lack as a sport is testing facilities

Andy

[George_TeamZog]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Perhaps this may be the chance to bring ladybird's revenge out of retirement...?

[joey_picus]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Let's make this class as open as possible in the hope of attracting new people to our sport. If someone wants to armour up a cheap RC car from the boot fair and drive it with a 27 MHz AM radio, they should be welcomed, provided they have a link and a power light. Of course, as Gary says, they won't last long. But the experience of being part of the roboteer community and actually taking part in a battle is a very powerful one and chances are they will come back with something better. Let's set the entry barrier as low as we can [both in money and build time] and see who we can attract.

Agreed My first robot was awful but the experience I had at my first event is one of the best I've ever had.

[brandon_nichols]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Now about these robot challenges, will they be like the RW Gauntlet with ramps, pits and obtrusions or any certain kinds of races? I think that would open a few eyes.

[xtreme]

Re: UK Kilobots - 1kg Combat Robots

Like I said, Suggest things. Things like Sumo, Bowling, Football, Gauntlets, Tug of War.
Like if theres a gauntlet what would you like to see?

We cant run 27mhz, this weight class is running under modified/upgraded featherweight rules, and they dont allow 27mhz in the featherweight class.