Metal armour

[targit]

Ive been out of the sport for awhile and was wondering what the current rules on metal armour and parts on antweights are. I was also considering building an ant version of the american bot, Nightmare (found on http://www.robotcombat.com/nightmare.htmlwww.robotcombat.com/nightmare.html). What are the current rules on antweight spinners?

[robotic_ants]

Metal armour

http://www.robotcombat.com/micronightmare.htmlhttp://www.robotcombat.com/micronightmare.html

Chris - http://www.featherweights.org/forum Im So Evil Im Worshipped By The Devil

[team_ireland]

Metal armour

Chris that robot is built to the american antweight rules so weighs 454g. Metal armour is allowed once its made in pannels and is no thicker than 1mm

Regards
Ian

[robotic_ants]

Metal armour

Yep im well aware of of the weight difference Ian. Well im still not sure on the metal armour rules, but best place to have a look is on the RobotWars101.org forum theres a couple of threads in the antweight section about metal armour.

Chris - http://www.featherweights.org/forum

[targit]

Metal armour

does that mean i could use the ant equivalent of angle iron or mini steel box section etc?

[team_ireland]

Metal armour

yes you can as that would be chassis but you can only use 1mm for armour plus it cannot be welded.

Regards
Ian

[Guest]

Metal armour

As most of the antweight committee run spinners, there arent many rules governing spinners, only the armour they hit.

Theres nothing like a fair fight eh?

[Guest]

Metal armour

... and Id love to put the little Ti box that is 0.3Faze against all 3 of em

[peterw]

Metal armour

Actually the original rules banned all metal armour and the committee have dispite owning one or two spinners (ok I have 3) voted for metal armour. The thickness rule was introduced to stop everyone building heavily armoured pushers that were indestructable and boring. You have to remember that unlike all other weight classes Ants have a 50% drop of perimeter which gives a great advantage to pusher/lifter type ants. The last two encounters between MilitANT and Antomkia have both gone against the spinner and Antomkia uses a plastic toy body shell for armour. In fact I am so convinced that the rules favour pushers/lifters rather than spinners that my latest design has no spinner

[craig_anto]

Metal armour

As most of the antweight committee run spinners, there arent many rules governing spinners, only the armour they hit.

Theres nothing like a fair fight eh?


the reason we allowed metal was to stop spinners
Fact

Millitant wont go through 1mm aluminium on the level it will only do damage on an edge
me and Pete proved it when I built a la Machine style Anto for microbotics
it was 0.5mm ally and 2mm poly
Millitant didnt go thou either but when it hit an edge it ripped off the panel.

i think the ants are the least regualted weight catagory and in my opinion the best because i think we allow people to do what they want

the ant rules allow for a good balance and require an understanding of the rules to give a good robot

i personally dont read the rules before build an ant because were very relaxed about safety but we need to be in future


Craig

[beligerant]

Metal armour

The one rule limiting spinners is that they must fight in a fully-enclosed arena. Once the arena provides the safety there is no reason to impose artificial limits on spinning weapons. There used to be a tip speed limit, but this was dropped when enclosed arenas were introduced.

Many committee members have been involved in ants for a long time (thats why theyre committee members), so they have possibly built a spinner at some time. Of the committee members present at AWS13, only three out of seven were running spinners. Several non committee members were also running spinners.

Metal armour was introduced after a long discussion prompted by spinners reaching the point where almost everything was being destroyed. Many opposed the introduction of metal for a variety of reasons, so a compromise was reached. In fact, few have made use of metal armour, not because of the rules, but because of its weight and difficulty working/fixing it (compared to plastics).

It has been agreed that the rules will not be amended at the present. When changes are considered Im sure the metal armour debate will surface once again...

[knightrous]

Metal armour

I think the rules are quite well done.