Metal???

[teamhunt]

Hey all.
I was thinking about updating my new AW, LIttle Patience on saturday, since i have sime time till RFRC.
I was going to try and make it more spinner proof from what i have at the moment (so a complete rebuild, lol, im going to try 2mm armour screwed together, which should work since the AW at the moment with 0.1mm and 1mm plastic weighs 126g) and i was wondering if i was allowd metal for armour?
i think i read back some time ago that ants cant use metal as armour but can only use it as a weapon (ramming front???) so i need some answers.
Thanks
(BTW, i'll probably use 1.5mm aluminuim, the stuff we used to use on the back of Hunter on his first event...)

[joey_picus]

Re: Metal???

You can use metal armour any thickness you like (it used to be maximum of 1mm but that was removed at AWS26) but as the rules currently state you can only use a continuous metal covering on a third of the robot, if you screw plates together it should be fine. The continuous plate rule should have been removed by now - there's a considerable majority against keeping it - but there's been a few admin problems with offically removing it :P

1.5mm ali might well take you over 150g to be honest though, and not provide much protection (I'd look into some 0.3-1mm titanium if you want spinenr proof armour)

[razerdave]

Re: Metal???

Just to inform you guys, the metal rule has now been removed, you can have a 1 peice chassis/shell now like Ant Awe 6 or Team Tiny Toons ants

[simon_windisch]

Re: Metal???

You might want to check out the new antweight worls series rules at http://robotwars101.org/ants/rules.htm

Simon

[archie2000]

Re: Metal???

titaniums cheap is it reccommended for easy builds

[razerdave]

Re: Metal???

I wouldn't call Ti cheap :P

[team_orr]

Re: Metal???

...or massivly easy to work with, you need decent tools
also you might want to check thread dates ^^

[razerdave]

Re: Metal???

To be fair jack, Archie was just using an old thread instead of making a new one. Notice he is ASKING if Ti is cheap.

Archie: Ti is not really very cheap, I have a few bits if you want some. As jack said You will need some good tin snips and possibly a dremal to work it into shapes. Bending it too sharply may cause it to snap.

[team_orr]

Re: Metal???

I apologies guys, i miss read what Archie posted, it was late and i had been busy reading through all the other bumped threads

Anyway yeah, as Dave said, you will need some decent tools, tin snips may do in a pinch, a dremel will work well, a bandsaw would be ideal. but im guessing you dont have access to that so a pair of tinsnips or a rotary tool would best suit your needs. alternativly there are plastics you can use that are strong and much more easy to work with, and pretty cheap.

Jack

[archie2000]

Re: Metal???

still got everything required and have found it cheap I was hoping HAZARD 2 was going to be 4WD with titanium but peter wallers ESCs wont do 4 motors .

[harry hills]

Re: Metal???

it will be really, really hard, neigh imposibe to have 4wd and a wepon and efective armour.

[razerdave]

Re: Metal???

Baby Hell fits that catagory: 4WD, an axe and 6mm HDPE and 0.5mm Titanium armour, and an 11.1v battery to boot. I finished it this evening, and its 152g, but thats within tolerance, and I can bring the weight down by changing the axe arm, so its possible, but, as Haz said, very hard.

[harry hills]

Re: Metal???

i know that but 4wd and a spinner would be harder to get efective.

[archie2000]

Re: Metal???

how could it possible be that light???????
are they micro gear motors

[harry hills]

Re: Metal???

well yes of cource, nearly all ants use them